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2026-07-17 · Limitless · 55 条相关讨论

Zenitsu π 2026-07-16 23:59:58

i mean everyone doing wash trad so , who is genius trader?

i mean everyone doing wash trad so , who is genius trader?

Skak 2026-07-17 04:30:51

damned if you do damned if you don't (wash trade this) . time after time the team has failed to get the challenges right, it gotta be intentional atp cause ain't no way

damned if you do damned if you don't (wash trade this) . time after time the team has failed to get the challenges right, it gotta be intentional atp cause ain't no way

Dan22 2026-07-17 04:37:38

How would you do it better?

How would you do it better?

taylordr 2026-07-17 04:39:14

I don't think u can judge until its over

I don't think u can judge until its over

Dan22 2026-07-17 04:39:59

fr. Everyone is saying the challenge is not well thought out but give no suggestions of how to improve it

fr. Everyone is saying the challenge is not well thought out but give no suggestions of how to improve it

taylordr 2026-07-17 04:40:09

Team isn't going to kick any bots out right now because they're paying fees so why bother

Team isn't going to kick any bots out right now because they're paying fees so why bother

taylordr 2026-07-17 04:42:03

I would've made it shorter and not weighted $10 trades as heavily

I would've made it shorter and not weighted $10 trades as heavily

Dan22 2026-07-17 04:46:55

They couldn't make it shorter otherwise they would have to cut out some matches from the world cup which doesn't make sense. And reducing the weight for smaller trades would completely disincentivize people with small accounts to even participate. Smaller trades are weighted more heavily because people with money can rack up points easily anyway. Both of these things you mentioned are important but i think the team did the best they could with both the duration of the event and xp allocation for tasks

They couldn't make it shorter otherwise they would have to cut out some matches from the world cup which doesn't make sense. And reducing the weight for smaller trades would completely disincentivize people with small accounts to even participate. Smaller trades are weighted more heavily because people with money can rack up points easily anyway. Both of these things you mentioned are important but i think the team did the best they could with both the duration of the event and xp allocation for tasks

taylordr 2026-07-17 04:49:13

Moreso if they were to eliminate people for washtrading and you'd been trading for 6 weeks straight it would suck

Moreso if they were to eliminate people for washtrading and you'd been trading for 6 weeks straight it would suck

taylordr 2026-07-17 04:49:54

But i can also see why they've done it because then people would figure out the loopholes and adapt

But i can also see why they've done it because then people would figure out the loopholes and adapt

taylordr 2026-07-17 04:51:22

People with small amounts are technically washtrading since they cant afford to hold

People with small amounts are technically washtrading since they cant afford to hold

taylordr 2026-07-17 04:51:44

But that allows bots to abuse this

But that allows bots to abuse this

taylordr 2026-07-17 04:51:48

Not too sure the way around it

Not too sure the way around it

taylordr 2026-07-17 04:52:14

Apart from the obvious people that are continuously buying and selling or using a 2 wallet system with the 20x boost

Apart from the obvious people that are continuously buying and selling or using a 2 wallet system with the 20x boost

Dan22 2026-07-17 04:52:33

Yeah. I am still very much certain they will not punish wash trading because it would filter out majority of the participants

Yeah. I am still very much certain they will not punish wash trading because it would filter out majority of the participants

taylordr 2026-07-17 04:52:38

Those are most likely getting caught

Those are most likely getting caught

taylordr 2026-07-17 04:53:12

I think most are abusing though but not for me to decide how to define washtrading

I think most are abusing though but not for me to decide how to define washtrading

Skak 2026-07-17 04:53:16

did you read the terms and conditions

did you read the terms and conditions

Dan22 2026-07-17 04:54:32

"Limitless is committed to keeping the Campaign fair for everyone who takes part. Where participation does not reflect genuine, good-faith play — including coordinated, artificial or otherwise abusive activity aimed at gaining an unfair advantage — Limitless may, at its discretion, void the XP and rewards involved and remove the participant from the Campaign." Is wash trading an unfair advantage when everyone is doing it?

"Limitless is committed to keeping the Campaign fair for everyone who takes part. Where participation does not reflect genuine, good-faith play — including coordinated, artificial or otherwise abusive activity aimed at gaining an unfair advantage — Limitless may, at its discretion, void the XP and rewards involved and remove the participant from the Campaign." Is wash trading an unfair advantage when everyone is doing it?

Dan22 2026-07-17 04:55:01

Because if everyone is doing it you either disqualify 90% of participants or you simply allow it

Because if everyone is doing it you either disqualify 90% of participants or you simply allow it

Dan22 2026-07-17 04:55:38

I am doing it because others are doing it. There is no reason for it to be considered an abusive activity

I am doing it because others are doing it. There is no reason for it to be considered an abusive activity

taylordr 2026-07-17 04:56:22

A) u wash and sell repeatedly on the same market B) u buy multiple $10 trades and then mass dump and repeat C) 2 way wallet system for 20x Imo all of those are under washtrading but again we'll see what the team says, they aren't dumb

A) u wash and sell repeatedly on the same market B) u buy multiple $10 trades and then mass dump and repeat C) 2 way wallet system for 20x Imo all of those are under washtrading but again we'll see what the team says, they aren't dumb

Dan22 2026-07-17 04:57:12

You don't create a campaign where you incentivize people to do as many trades as possible for as little value as possible and then diqualify them for doing so. It just doesn't make sense to me

You don't create a campaign where you incentivize people to do as many trades as possible for as little value as possible and then diqualify them for doing so. It just doesn't make sense to me

taylordr 2026-07-17 04:57:37

If you are pointsmaxxing by just spamming $10 buys i dont think thats an issue since washtrading is the act of buying and selling repeatedly, so there is a difference

If you are pointsmaxxing by just spamming $10 buys i dont think thats an issue since washtrading is the act of buying and selling repeatedly, so there is a difference

taylordr 2026-07-17 04:58:14

Not everyone is wash trading the same though

Not everyone is wash trading the same though

Dan22 2026-07-17 04:59:01

In top 100 most do it the same way. And those are the people getting the biggest pie

In top 100 most do it the same way. And those are the people getting the biggest pie

taylordr 2026-07-17 04:59:42

I disagree

I disagree

taylordr 2026-07-17 05:00:20

Team should've also made it that you dont get points if you aren't making a profit

Team should've also made it that you dont get points if you aren't making a profit

taylordr 2026-07-17 05:00:37

People just spam buys and losing $0.03 every trade

People just spam buys and losing $0.03 every trade

taylordr 2026-07-17 05:00:51

Which isnt trading

Which isnt trading

Skak 2026-07-17 05:00:56

they have done that in other category challenges (crypto). the only grey area here is what counts as washtrading

they have done that in other category challenges (crypto). the only grey area here is what counts as washtrading

taylordr 2026-07-17 05:01:01

But they wont do anything about that i dont think

But they wont do anything about that i dont think

Dan22 2026-07-17 05:01:42

You disagree that most people with 1m+ xp got there by doing artificial volumes?

You disagree that most people with 1m+ xp got there by doing artificial volumes?

Skak 2026-07-17 05:01:46

FACTS a min 10% profit of your trade size would have made the trades genuine

FACTS a min 10% profit of your trade size would have made the trades genuine

taylordr 2026-07-17 05:02:14

Yeh i disagree, u can get top10 without 'washtrading'

Yeh i disagree, u can get top10 without 'washtrading'

taylordr 2026-07-17 05:02:31

But again i dont know how they define washtrading, i just have a version in mind

But again i dont know how they define washtrading, i just have a version in mind

Dan22 2026-07-17 05:02:39

Good to know. This is my first time participating so don't know how things worked in previous challenges

Good to know. This is my first time participating so don't know how things worked in previous challenges

taylordr 2026-07-17 05:02:44

Always gonna be a loophole anyways

Always gonna be a loophole anyways

Dan22 2026-07-17 05:03:30

I disagree but let's agree to disagree then

I disagree but let's agree to disagree then

taylordr 2026-07-17 05:06:13

10% wouldve been too much because the liquidity isnt good

10% wouldve been too much because the liquidity isnt good

taylordr 2026-07-17 05:06:47

On most of the markets it takes less than 10 trades before u can make 10% max lol

On most of the markets it takes less than 10 trades before u can make 10% max lol

taylordr 2026-07-17 05:08:12

But i can't complain, team has done pretty well, just needed more markets imo

But i can't complain, team has done pretty well, just needed more markets imo

Skak 2026-07-17 05:10:31

i was mainly reffering to the 20x thing they introduced but you're right

i was mainly reffering to the 20x thing they introduced but you're right

Skak 2026-07-17 05:14:50

on the bright side it brought traders/ a bit more liquidity and activity than before

on the bright side it brought traders/ a bit more liquidity and activity than before

Skak 2026-07-17 05:15:58

Hope they stay for the new season and it's not 10 people with a thousand wallets each lol

Hope they stay for the new season and it's not 10 people with a thousand wallets each lol

Zenitsu π 2026-07-17 09:37:41

End of the day they need volume fees and they are getting why complain ? just enjoy your xp

End of the day they need volume fees and they are getting why complain ? just enjoy your xp

bouge 2026-07-17 19:23:48

everybody is washtrading. bot or real

everybody is washtrading. bot or real

taylordr 2026-07-17 19:24:10

Depends how u define washtrading but no

Depends how u define washtrading but no

bouge 2026-07-17 19:34:53

All these technicalities 😂 Once you're spamming buys or sells for volume with little to no value, it's washtrading and everybody is doing it

All these technicalities 😂 Once you're spamming buys or sells for volume with little to no value, it's washtrading and everybody is doing it

bouge 2026-07-17 19:35:02

this is not the issue at hand

this is not the issue at hand

skantan 2026-07-17 19:37:02

bots should be removed regardless

bots should be removed regardless

taylordr 2026-07-17 19:41:58

Im not the team so its not up to me but there are obviously different levels of washtrading, otherwise you are just saying people that buy and sell 100 times in 10minutes are fine which is dumb lol

Im not the team so its not up to me but there are obviously different levels of washtrading, otherwise you are just saying people that buy and sell 100 times in 10minutes are fine which is dumb lol

bouge 2026-07-17 19:43:38

I'm not saying they're fine, I'm saying almost everybody is doing it

I'm not saying they're fine, I'm saying almost everybody is doing it

Zenitsu π 2026-07-17 19:44:55

he just saying even bot can't keep up 100 trade in 10 minutes

he just saying even bot can't keep up 100 trade in 10 minutes

taylordr 2026-07-17 19:51:20

Just have to trust that most will be sybilled out for obvious bot patterns

Just have to trust that most will be sybilled out for obvious bot patterns