PolymarketIran has passed multiple laws on enrichment?
Iran has passed multiple laws on enrichment?
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共 351 条，显示第 101-150 条It has no bearing on what Iran committed to in the framework of the MOU
It has no bearing on what Iran committed to in the framework of the MOU
That’s not the status quo it’s a gross extrapolation of meaning based on reports about the circumstances on the ground
That’s not the status quo it’s a gross extrapolation of meaning based on reports about the circumstances on the ground
Leave him be
Leave him be
Literally let that guy keep going he’s one of the worst ones for N
Literally let that guy keep going he’s one of the worst ones for N
It’s not a pledge about ceasing enrichment but the framework upcoming negotiations will be predicated on and the quote is abundantly clear on that topic
It’s not a pledge about ceasing enrichment but the framework upcoming negotiations will be predicated on and the quote is abundantly clear on that topic
He’s terrible at arguing this don’t interrupt him
He’s terrible at arguing this don’t interrupt him
Here is the video where I made the transcript from, it’s abundantly clear what is being said and it’s far from any kind of commitment to pause enrichment
Here is the video where I made the transcript from, it’s abundantly clear what is being said and it’s far from any kind of commitment to pause enrichment
https://www.facebook.com/CBSNews/videos/vice-president-jd-vance-says-tehran-has-promised-not-to-enrich-uranium-and-has-p/1020741833704014/
https://www.facebook.com/CBSNews/videos/vice-president-jd-vance-says-tehran-has-promised-not-to-enrich-uranium-and-has-p/1020741833704014/
Vance didn’t say what he’s being misquoted as saying which is why no media is echoing the claims being presented here, and it’s abundantly clear when the full context to the clip is provided
Vance didn’t say what he’s being misquoted as saying which is why no media is echoing the claims being presented here, and it’s abundantly clear when the full context to the clip is provided
If it hasn’t been the market remains open until such time as that has been met or the market ends
If it hasn’t been the market remains open until such time as that has been met or the market ends
You guys are arguing yourselves into circles by trying to provide evidence that it’s N, the focus of this dispute is whether or not the evidentiary threshold for Y has been met
You guys are arguing yourselves into circles by trying to provide evidence that it’s N, the focus of this dispute is whether or not the evidentiary threshold for Y has been met
Y resolve*
Y resolve*
People arguing N stay on topic they’re attempting to provide evidence to satisfy resolving the market to Y, you simply need to disassemble the arguments they make rather than counter them with arguments as to why it’s N, it’s not N *it’s not anywhere close to enough for a Y resolve Y*
People arguing N stay on topic they’re attempting to provide evidence to satisfy resolving the market to Y, you simply need to disassemble the arguments they make rather than counter them with arguments as to why it’s N, it’s not N *it’s not anywhere close to enough for a Y resolve Y*
Which is categorically not what this claim is which is why no media has reported it as such, that’s the basis they’re engaging from on negotiations
Which is categorically not what this claim is which is why no media has reported it as such, that’s the basis they’re engaging from on negotiations
Reporter question - "A US official described having secured some of these quote unquote gentlemen agreements with Iran on certain aspects of the negotiation so when it comes to HEU can you walk us through whats been secured even in these kind of gentlemen agreements on how exactly they're going to get rid of the stockpile are there agreements on low grade enrichment, how long is the moratorium on enriching uranium for Iran and are any of these gentlemen agreements written down anywhere?" Vance response - "So some of them are written down but fundamentally whether they're written down or spoken this is why we structured the deal that we did because we don't trust words we trust action and we trust conduct so we're going to reward conduct and we're not going to reward any words whether they're written on a sheet of paper or not there's a lot of discussion the MOU this gentlemen agreements the final deal words don't matter ladies and gentlemen we're about verification and so what we're going to do is to say if they do the things that they've promised to do they've promised not to enrich, they've promised to let inspectors in to destroy that highly enriched stockpile and of course it's not usable anymore you take it somewhere else they've promised a number of things and that's why the deal contemplates a number of benefits if they do those things but it doesn't do anything if they don't actually meet those promises" The full quote is abundantly clear he made it in response to a questions about the gentlemen agreements made and in the same breath as the enrichment statement references the clearly outlined preexisting HEU stockpile clearly outlining this quote as referencing future negotiations which is why precisely ZERO outlets have reported this statement by Vance to mean an Iranian agreement not to enrich, it’s a very significant claim and would represent a substantial departure in the Iranian negotiating position
Reporter question - "A US official described having secured some of these quote unquote gentlemen agreements with Iran on certain aspects of the negotiation so when it comes to HEU can you walk us through whats been secured even in these kind of gentlemen agreements on how exactly they're going to get rid of the stockpile are there agreements on low grade enrichment, how long is the moratorium on enriching uranium for Iran and are any of these gentlemen agreements written down anywhere?" Vance response - "So some of them are written down but fundamentally whether they're written down or spoken this is why we structured the deal that we did because we don't trust words we trust action and we trust conduct so we're going to reward conduct and we're not going to reward any words whether they're written on a sheet of paper or not there's a lot of discussion the MOU this gentlemen agreements the final deal words don't matter ladies and gentlemen we're about verification and so what we're going to do is to say if they do the things that they've promised to do they've promised not to enrich, they've promised to let inspectors in to destroy that highly enriched stockpile and of course it's not usable anymore you take it somewhere else they've promised a number of things and that's why the deal contemplates a number of benefits if they do those things but it doesn't do anything if they don't actually meet those promises" The full quote is abundantly clear he made it in response to a questions about the gentlemen agreements made and in the same breath as the enrichment statement references the clearly outlined preexisting HEU stockpile clearly outlining this quote as referencing future negotiations which is why precisely ZERO outlets have reported this statement by Vance to mean an Iranian agreement not to enrich, it’s a very significant claim and would represent a substantial departure in the Iranian negotiating position
Already addressed the JD Vance point let me repaste that
Already addressed the JD Vance point let me repaste that
I have answered quite literally every single point made on this topic for hours
I have answered quite literally every single point made on this topic for hours
It’s left inherently open ended and acceptance of the status quo isn’t American agreement on Iranian enrichment rights
It’s left inherently open ended and acceptance of the status quo isn’t American agreement on Iranian enrichment rights
Status quo is deliberately vague on the topic of enrichment and has no bearing for a P2 resolve on either matter
Status quo is deliberately vague on the topic of enrichment and has no bearing for a P2 resolve on either matter
At least as of now
At least as of now
This is neither
This is neither
Ends enrichment requires a positive in the form of commitment to cessation
Ends enrichment requires a positive in the form of commitment to cessation
Allow enrichment requires a positive in the form of acquiescence on the nuclear clause
Allow enrichment requires a positive in the form of acquiescence on the nuclear clause
Both markets are N
Both markets are N
I’ve got 4 bottles of adderall I’m fine bbg
I’ve got 4 bottles of adderall I’m fine bbg
Sorry to interrupt this low IQ banter but some international agency statement about legality of actions in a sovereign nation carries no significance without any kind of international arbitration or enforcement mechanism, under Iranian law the actual law of the land Iran has a right to enrich uranium up to 60% carry on with this drivel but it’s completely nonsensical and off topic
Sorry to interrupt this low IQ banter but some international agency statement about legality of actions in a sovereign nation carries no significance without any kind of international arbitration or enforcement mechanism, under Iranian law the actual law of the land Iran has a right to enrich uranium up to 60% carry on with this drivel but it’s completely nonsensical and off topic
Or a cult
Or a cult
In fact I think it’s the main reason this is EV and others are wrong
In fact I think it’s the main reason this is EV and others are wrong
No I don’t care what happens to the market I know what I’m dealing with, to be perfectly clear I understand the game I’m playing quite well and I’m playing it I’m not like upset or anything
No I don’t care what happens to the market I know what I’m dealing with, to be perfectly clear I understand the game I’m playing quite well and I’m playing it I’m not like upset or anything
There was multiple points where there were egregious distortions of information specifically the further enrichment and some of the quotes
There was multiple points where there were egregious distortions of information specifically the further enrichment and some of the quotes
So it’s obviously going to take me time to go through them point by point and link sources, my claim can be backed up easily which is the nice part about not needing to distort things so far as to be unrecognizable from what they actually mean
So it’s obviously going to take me time to go through them point by point and link sources, my claim can be backed up easily which is the nice part about not needing to distort things so far as to be unrecognizable from what they actually mean
But it should be noted I was being pinged across Discord servers by like 20 different people and a couple of the people arguing P4 had absolutely no idea what they were arguing and were massively screwing up disassembling the arguments being made for Y
But it should be noted I was being pinged across Discord servers by like 20 different people and a couple of the people arguing P4 had absolutely no idea what they were arguing and were massively screwing up disassembling the arguments being made for Y
I ended up linking far more for the record
I ended up linking far more for the record
I’m happy for you to continue arguing for Y though!
I’m happy for you to continue arguing for Y though!
No it didn’t and pardon my rudeness but you’ve shown a complete ignorance of the discussion
No it didn’t and pardon my rudeness but you’ve shown a complete ignorance of the discussion
Ultimately at the core of why this attempt has failed is that its underlying is so non existent, so poor
Ultimately at the core of why this attempt has failed is that its underlying is so non existent, so poor
There were core fundamentals in this market that were being presented as if they were the case when they can be demonstrated to not be
There were core fundamentals in this market that were being presented as if they were the case when they can be demonstrated to not be
The incorrect understanding of “further enrichment” The egregious misquoting and misrepresentation of statements made by a litany of figures The status of Irans nuclear enrichment right as a red line which neither party has indicated any actual acquiescence on etc etc etc
The incorrect understanding of “further enrichment” The egregious misquoting and misrepresentation of statements made by a litany of figures The status of Irans nuclear enrichment right as a red line which neither party has indicated any actual acquiescence on etc etc etc
I think largely they genuinely were unaware (I don’t think Denizz was) about the extremely weak foundation this argument had
I think largely they genuinely were unaware (I don’t think Denizz was) about the extremely weak foundation this argument had
They thought they could pull a classic brigade and silence all those arguing
They thought they could pull a classic brigade and silence all those arguing
I wouldn’t and I’ve been around and in the know about the going ons in this space a lot longer than you
I wouldn’t and I’ve been around and in the know about the going ons in this space a lot longer than you
It’s honestly a pretty low quality attempt to resolve the market as I see it and requires serious leaps especially when the prior article of the memorandum clearly outlines the pending nature of the enrichment negotiations 😂
It’s honestly a pretty low quality attempt to resolve the market as I see it and requires serious leaps especially when the prior article of the memorandum clearly outlines the pending nature of the enrichment negotiations 😂
Because practically every single argument made has been irrelevant, distortion, misunderstanding or a misquote
Because practically every single argument made has been irrelevant, distortion, misunderstanding or a misquote
I really have spent a lot of time following these negotiations and was aware of this cuck, I held like 45k Y shares at one point I sold at various points based on the probability I saw of the Americans getting an agreement breakthrough, or the style of nuclear language used being enough to resolve the market, I honestly think this has been a bit insane even by Polymarket standards I didn’t expect this much traction for such a poor argument but I overindexed how much people were following these negotiations in this space probably
I really have spent a lot of time following these negotiations and was aware of this cuck, I held like 45k Y shares at one point I sold at various points based on the probability I saw of the Americans getting an agreement breakthrough, or the style of nuclear language used being enough to resolve the market, I honestly think this has been a bit insane even by Polymarket standards I didn’t expect this much traction for such a poor argument but I overindexed how much people were following these negotiations in this space probably
I think if there’s a clarification it’s highly likely it’ll be positive for N because the arguments being made are just very poor imo
I think if there’s a clarification it’s highly likely it’ll be positive for N because the arguments being made are just very poor imo
Well the price movement is independent of how probable I think a clarification is and how probable that clarification is to be highly favorable for N / Y or somewhere in the middle
Well the price movement is independent of how probable I think a clarification is and how probable that clarification is to be highly favorable for N / Y or somewhere in the middle
I think the price will slip for Y but probably not much more than 15-20c for the shorter markets
I think the price will slip for Y but probably not much more than 15-20c for the shorter markets
FV or what the price will move towards?
FV or what the price will move towards?
Which both reiterated Polymarket willingness to clarify these disputes rather than leaving them to UMA, and specifically addressed clarifying contents of the agreement
Which both reiterated Polymarket willingness to clarify these disputes rather than leaving them to UMA, and specifically addressed clarifying contents of the agreement