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独立建设者反映Hyperliquid生态推广困难与不公平竞争

2026-07-11 · Hyperliquid · 34 条相关讨论

wayne 2026-07-11 00:08:15

I am coming from the perspective of a builder who has built many projects now around HL and i dont think they've been complete sh*t (kombat [dot] trade is a HUGE array of features where other projects (funded) focus on only one - it is a full stack trading terminal - 0 users) it is a war of attention and we are basically hands tied - there's no support here. So the only way you can get attention is by inorganic growth. It kinda feels almost hostile towards builders that are not funded if i am honest. I have spoken about this before. infofi [dot] trade is genuinely novel and built on HyperEVM and it will go nowhere unless there's some way to attract a grass roots community and I would 100% rather do that organically than go get some VCs money and then pay a bunch of baddies to take pics of my app while they're sunning on the beach. I have dedicated now >2 years building here, i have spent fortunes of my own money - I just don't think it's too much to ask to have some way to try and get an organic grass roots community spun up. Just get posts deleted because it mentions something I BUILT in the BUILDERS CHANNEL - is just hostile. Other ecos have grants. This eco has a gatekept "community" website and lets be honest - the original rug project in this eco gets a front row seat.

I am coming from the perspective of a builder who has built many projects now around HL and i dont think they've been complete sh*t (kombat [dot] trade is a HUGE array of features where other projects (funded) focus on only one - it is a full stack trading terminal - 0 users) it is a war of attention and we are basically hands tied - there's no support here. So the only way you can get attention is by inorganic growth. It kinda feels almost hostile towards builders that are not funded if i am honest. I have spoken about this before. infofi [dot] trade is genuinely novel and built on HyperEVM and it will go nowhere unless there's some way to attract a grass roots community and I would 100% rather do that organically than go get some VCs money and then pay a bunch of baddies to take pics of my app while they're sunning on the beach. I have dedicated now >2 years building here, i have spent fortunes of my own money - I just don't think it's too much to ask to have some way to try and get an organic grass roots community spun up. Just get posts deleted because it mentions something I BUILT in the BUILDERS CHANNEL - is just hostile. Other ecos have grants. This eco has a gatekept "community" website and lets be honest - the original rug project in this eco gets a front row seat.

Shisho 2026-07-11 00:28:00

i'm gonna come from the perspective of a builder who has neither raised money from VCs or needed any grants just build stuff. if it's good, people will use it. if it's really good, people will pay to use it. that's it

i'm gonna come from the perspective of a builder who has neither raised money from VCs or needed any grants just build stuff. if it's good, people will use it. if it's really good, people will pay to use it. that's it

wayne 2026-07-11 00:31:43

How do you get attention in the first place? You kinda timed it right, you built a first class product early on, also the HL team were happy to mention smaller projects then in the “teams building” channel. I’ve always been a fan of yours from when we did HX, you were awesome, got on calls and gave us advise. It’s hard is all I am saying. Maybe I need to think more on this. It’s just impossible to go from like 30 x followers to 1k which then opens up some stuff. If I’m not even allowed to mention my project here then it’s dead in the water.

How do you get attention in the first place? You kinda timed it right, you built a first class product early on, also the HL team were happy to mention smaller projects then in the “teams building” channel. I’ve always been a fan of yours from when we did HX, you were awesome, got on calls and gave us advise. It’s hard is all I am saying. Maybe I need to think more on this. It’s just impossible to go from like 30 x followers to 1k which then opens up some stuff. If I’m not even allowed to mention my project here then it’s dead in the water.

Shisho 2026-07-11 00:33:24

it took a lot of time and now there are numerous competitors with similar products and deployments the job isn't finished and the only thing left is to build more stuff

it took a lot of time and now there are numerous competitors with similar products and deployments the job isn't finished and the only thing left is to build more stuff

wayne 2026-07-11 00:35:13

Microcap outcome markets on anything, deployed by anyone is novel. I think it has great potential. It’s not copycat anything.

Microcap outcome markets on anything, deployed by anyone is novel. I think it has great potential. It’s not copycat anything.

wayne 2026-07-11 00:35:40

Maybe I need to think more on this - I can’t be the only person feeling this

Maybe I need to think more on this - I can’t be the only person feeling this

Shisho 2026-07-11 00:37:34

you'll figure it out, just keep doing research, build things, put them out there,

you'll figure it out, just keep doing research, build things, put them out there,

wayne 2026-07-11 00:38:31

https://klipy.com/gifs/greenmile-black

https://klipy.com/gifs/greenmile-black

wayne 2026-07-11 00:39:22

But yeah. If I’m not building then I’m going nuts lol

But yeah. If I’m not building then I’m going nuts lol

sadams17 2026-07-11 00:49:50

team should give 'vip' packages to those using their evm (or other hl platforms) rather than continuing to shower and enrich the rich airdrop folks

team should give 'vip' packages to those using their evm (or other hl platforms) rather than continuing to shower and enrich the rich airdrop folks

shahmat 2026-07-11 01:03:25

perps trading is currently what generates most of hyperliquid's revenue, makes sense to recognize that

perps trading is currently what generates most of hyperliquid's revenue, makes sense to recognize that

wayne 2026-07-11 01:07:31

You can literally @ the x account and make a market directly from X. It’s so good. It’s frustrating af

You can literally @ the x account and make a market directly from X. It’s so good. It’s frustrating af

shuri 2026-07-11 01:07:53

people should do minimal research instead of/before armchairing 'suggestions'

people should do minimal research instead of/before armchairing 'suggestions'

Gav 2026-07-11 16:10:22

Good luck all builders. We have good intentions but only the best products will get the attention they deserve.

Good luck all builders. We have good intentions but only the best products will get the attention they deserve.

wayne 2026-07-11 18:03:12

That is not true.

That is not true.

wayne 2026-07-11 18:03:46

You’re basing your statement on idealistic meritocracy which doesn’t exist. Comments like this cause damage

You’re basing your statement on idealistic meritocracy which doesn’t exist. Comments like this cause damage

wayne 2026-07-11 18:04:00

Prjx

Prjx

Gav 2026-07-11 18:05:16

But it still won't get users, it will just get builders.

But it still won't get users, it will just get builders.

wayne 2026-07-11 18:08:38

Good luck sir. I built an AMM with private trading (before privacy went nuts) and a chain agnostic proof of innocence. Prjx won the attention because of cartoon characters. I built kombat [.] trade - 13 DEXs, pair / basket trading - AI assistant, tap trading. It launched first. 0 users Now I’m building small cap prediction markets on any subject, launched by anyone (even directly from x) with a 3 stage promotion path to HIP-4 I am not allowed to mention them here. None of them have any users.

Good luck sir. I built an AMM with private trading (before privacy went nuts) and a chain agnostic proof of innocence. Prjx won the attention because of cartoon characters. I built kombat [.] trade - 13 DEXs, pair / basket trading - AI assistant, tap trading. It launched first. 0 users Now I’m building small cap prediction markets on any subject, launched by anyone (even directly from x) with a 3 stage promotion path to HIP-4 I am not allowed to mention them here. None of them have any users.

wayne 2026-07-11 18:10:27

Ok so you’re saying I need a VC to get traction…

Ok so you’re saying I need a VC to get traction…

wayne 2026-07-11 18:11:13

Ok… then how do you market if you’re self bootstrapped

Ok… then how do you market if you’re self bootstrapped

wayne 2026-07-11 18:11:43

I’ve soent a fortune of my own money on marketing btw. Unless you can afford the KOLs you’re locked out

I’ve soent a fortune of my own money on marketing btw. Unless you can afford the KOLs you’re locked out

wayne 2026-07-11 18:11:57

There is 0 support from the “eco”

There is 0 support from the “eco”

wayne 2026-07-11 18:12:07

Such as?

Such as?

wayne 2026-07-11 18:12:15

We do weekly spaces on x

We do weekly spaces on x

wayne 2026-07-11 18:13:12

Bro, get your product launched and we can talk again

Bro, get your product launched and we can talk again

Gav 2026-07-11 18:13:51

I can understand why people won't interact with your products if this is how you interact with people.

I can understand why people won't interact with your products if this is how you interact with people.

wayne 2026-07-11 18:14:33

I said I’m building something to help other devs and you’re telling me try harder but you’ve not even launched anything

I said I’m building something to help other devs and you’re telling me try harder but you’ve not even launched anything

wayne 2026-07-11 18:16:59

here's how some of the "premium" products on the HL eco got where they are rn - you go to another chain - you beg for grants, you file all the paper worka nd make all the promises - you take the money, you then abandon the chain - not fulfilling a single promise - you take taht money - you launch a coin - you rug it - then you build on HL - you launch a coin and rug it again

here's how some of the "premium" products on the HL eco got where they are rn - you go to another chain - you beg for grants, you file all the paper worka nd make all the promises - you take the money, you then abandon the chain - not fulfilling a single promise - you take taht money - you launch a coin - you rug it - then you build on HL - you launch a coin and rug it again

wayne 2026-07-11 18:17:06

i have receipts

i have receipts

wayne 2026-07-11 18:17:12

oh then you get VC funded

oh then you get VC funded

wayne 2026-07-11 18:18:03

or - you launch on HL - you run a points season with some shitty tg app - you run up millions - soft rug, buy another platform and get front row seats in the VIP

or - you launch on HL - you run a points season with some shitty tg app - you run up millions - soft rug, buy another platform and get front row seats in the VIP

wayne 2026-07-11 18:20:44

yeah - pmf is basically the only skill you need but if you get blocked by the skem cabal you wont even ever find out if it had pmf

yeah - pmf is basically the only skill you need but if you get blocked by the skem cabal you wont even ever find out if it had pmf

wayne 2026-07-11 18:21:05

anyway - i will anounce it here - if you're quick you'll see it before they delete it 😄

anyway - i will anounce it here - if you're quick you'll see it before they delete it 😄