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On the road to fix your problem you'll learn how to build the solution. Set a goal, then try and resolve it, that way you learn your way around things and develop the skills to build things 🤷♂️ Or one could say, use AI to help you through it, and put in the work to actually learn
On the road to fix your problem you'll learn how to build the solution. Set a goal, then try and resolve it, that way you learn your way around things and develop the skills to build things 🤷♂️ Or one could say, use AI to help you through it, and put in the work to actually learn
Have a problem and fix it yourself
Have a problem and fix it yourself
I know, user and builder feedback has been done more than enough, building on the chain is tough, using the chain can be tough at "random". A year is a lot, many projects/companies have lived and died already, opening up the valves is possible.
I know, user and builder feedback has been done more than enough, building on the chain is tough, using the chain can be tough at "random". A year is a lot, many projects/companies have lived and died already, opening up the valves is possible.
Shisho, you cofounded LiquidLaunch a memecoin launchpad, and Liqd.Ag a DEX aggregator, and your users were some of the most impacted by the low limit in gas, they lost money interacting with your platform and it wasn't on you. When I talk about May 2025 it was literally caused by the user demand on LiquidLaunch, then it got abandonned by users, one of the main reasons being that the chain broke, you literally are the builder who is being impacted by this. What brought you to defend it ? And none other than an hour ago, gas spiked to 300 gwei, I didn't look at why, but you cannot say this is a chain for innovation when users randomly have to pay many dollars to get their txs validated, it's just wrong. "Not happening at the pace you want it or in the direction you want it to", users are paying high fees at the slightest peek of congestion, when they shouldn't have to, of course I'm not satisfied with this direction/pace, who would ?
Shisho, you cofounded LiquidLaunch a memecoin launchpad, and Liqd.Ag a DEX aggregator, and your users were some of the most impacted by the low limit in gas, they lost money interacting with your platform and it wasn't on you. When I talk about May 2025 it was literally caused by the user demand on LiquidLaunch, then it got abandonned by users, one of the main reasons being that the chain broke, you literally are the builder who is being impacted by this. What brought you to defend it ? And none other than an hour ago, gas spiked to 300 gwei, I didn't look at why, but you cannot say this is a chain for innovation when users randomly have to pay many dollars to get their txs validated, it's just wrong. "Not happening at the pace you want it or in the direction you want it to", users are paying high fees at the slightest peek of congestion, when they shouldn't have to, of course I'm not satisfied with this direction/pace, who would ?
I agree with the fact that it may not be what the team wants to see, but if it really is, I don't believe it would be a valid reason for keeping block size low. Gambling will happen if it can happen, and in the end it will still impact builders who strive to build useful products, as their users are going to be impacted by the slightest peak of usage on the chain
I agree with the fact that it may not be what the team wants to see, but if it really is, I don't believe it would be a valid reason for keeping block size low. Gambling will happen if it can happen, and in the end it will still impact builders who strive to build useful products, as their users are going to be impacted by the slightest peak of usage on the chain
Well know it boils down to what blockchains today are used mainly for : Trading shitcoins, casinos, nfts and then the last percentage of volume to some "real" use case ? A majority of bullshit I agree, nothing that makes the eco go forward, I agree, but it stills makes builders live, and try things out, and gives them the space to make great things. Currently the HyperEVM can't provide a great platform for building these type of things all at once, in the likes of Base, Solana, BSC, or else. You could say it's a win, but it won't incentivize the next great product to be built on HyperEVM either. And by the way, as of today, implementing CoreWriters on HyperEVM is non-atomic, meaning if shit happens on Core, with a tx sent from EVM, you cannot know about it without using external processes, you can't trust the CoreWriter to refund, you have to do it on Core, even though I didn't work on it personnally, that's what I've been told by people who tried. For your last point about impacting HyperCore's performance, I cannot answer, only HL Labs knows the answer (I believe), even though I know they run on the same hl-node.
Well know it boils down to what blockchains today are used mainly for : Trading shitcoins, casinos, nfts and then the last percentage of volume to some "real" use case ? A majority of bullshit I agree, nothing that makes the eco go forward, I agree, but it stills makes builders live, and try things out, and gives them the space to make great things. Currently the HyperEVM can't provide a great platform for building these type of things all at once, in the likes of Base, Solana, BSC, or else. You could say it's a win, but it won't incentivize the next great product to be built on HyperEVM either. And by the way, as of today, implementing CoreWriters on HyperEVM is non-atomic, meaning if shit happens on Core, with a tx sent from EVM, you cannot know about it without using external processes, you can't trust the CoreWriter to refund, you have to do it on Core, even though I didn't work on it personnally, that's what I've been told by people who tried. For your last point about impacting HyperCore's performance, I cannot answer, only HL Labs knows the answer (I believe), even though I know they run on the same hl-node.
Yes it would : - Lower gas prices as a mean, as there is few reasons to set high fees to be validated in the next block, there is room for it - On big usage spikes, such as a NFT mint for example, thinking about the bald NFTs months ago, would still grow the gas price as users spike priority fees to get validated first, but would end up so much lower as it would support 10 times more mints per second, and the gas spike would last much shorter as the minting would go faster, here are some tweets I made about it months ago - People using telegram/terminals that manage fees for them would be way less left out, remembering May 2025 fr example with LiquidLaunch booming, it caused some users to pay 1 HYPE of gas fee, nonsense x com/pejisdev/status/1895204797680361807 x com/pejisdev/status/1977056581477974436?s=20 x com/pejisdev/status/1895197400857485762 Actually have been tweeting about this for some time lol
Yes it would : - Lower gas prices as a mean, as there is few reasons to set high fees to be validated in the next block, there is room for it - On big usage spikes, such as a NFT mint for example, thinking about the bald NFTs months ago, would still grow the gas price as users spike priority fees to get validated first, but would end up so much lower as it would support 10 times more mints per second, and the gas spike would last much shorter as the minting would go faster, here are some tweets I made about it months ago - People using telegram/terminals that manage fees for them would be way less left out, remembering May 2025 fr example with LiquidLaunch booming, it caused some users to pay 1 HYPE of gas fee, nonsense x com/pejisdev/status/1895204797680361807 x com/pejisdev/status/1977056581477974436?s=20 x com/pejisdev/status/1895197400857485762 Actually have been tweeting about this for some time lol
But you shouldn't have to trust the next builder that he won't inflate fees because he vibecoded something he doesn't understand. HyperEVM is resting on a fine line at all times, because blocks are not big enough so that much txs are validated the second they are submitted, users have no reason other than the "Hyperliquid EVM chain" to come on HyperEVM, and when they do so, they risk a gas spike because technically it can happen, and not rarely. And when it happens they leave, and maybe don't come back.
But you shouldn't have to trust the next builder that he won't inflate fees because he vibecoded something he doesn't understand. HyperEVM is resting on a fine line at all times, because blocks are not big enough so that much txs are validated the second they are submitted, users have no reason other than the "Hyperliquid EVM chain" to come on HyperEVM, and when they do so, they risk a gas spike because technically it can happen, and not rarely. And when it happens they leave, and maybe don't come back.
Rabby will tell you you're paying too much in fees, the apps can tell you too, and they can work around it, but in the end it worsens UX, as you have no choice but to balance things between throughput and reactivity. Not only during gas spikes honestly, apps can inflate gas prices by doubling down on priority fees or gas prices just so they can get in the next block instead of waiting a bit, because blocks are so small, you're not sure you can have your TX in the next block, you inflate the fee, and other apps do so, and so on. And it's not rare, waiting 5s for a swap is a lot, so a lot of apps set high fees, creates the cycle etc.
Rabby will tell you you're paying too much in fees, the apps can tell you too, and they can work around it, but in the end it worsens UX, as you have no choice but to balance things between throughput and reactivity. Not only during gas spikes honestly, apps can inflate gas prices by doubling down on priority fees or gas prices just so they can get in the next block instead of waiting a bit, because blocks are so small, you're not sure you can have your TX in the next block, you inflate the fee, and other apps do so, and so on. And it's not rare, waiting 5s for a swap is a lot, so a lot of apps set high fees, creates the cycle etc.
The main thing is not about one app, it's about many apps living together, that's the problem
The main thing is not about one app, it's about many apps living together, that's the problem
This is litterally why Hyperswap had to build a system to deploy LP for users otherwise they are stuck, because switching to big blocks is non-trivial. This is a solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist. And when I say HyperEVM had the biggest gas spikes, it's because only a few dapps can live together with actual activity before it breaks. The chain isn't used because it can't be used by a lot of people at once, everytime it tries, gas price spikes to 1000th. Yeah you can see complex dapps, true, but there can only be a few live at once before it breaks.
This is litterally why Hyperswap had to build a system to deploy LP for users otherwise they are stuck, because switching to big blocks is non-trivial. This is a solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist. And when I say HyperEVM had the biggest gas spikes, it's because only a few dapps can live together with actual activity before it breaks. The chain isn't used because it can't be used by a lot of people at once, everytime it tries, gas price spikes to 1000th. Yeah you can see complex dapps, true, but there can only be a few live at once before it breaks.
Once again, this is out of touch with reality, just deploying an LP is more than 3M gas, this is Uniswap code, go tell them to write better code see what they tell you
Once again, this is out of touch with reality, just deploying an LP is more than 3M gas, this is Uniswap code, go tell them to write better code see what they tell you
Big blocks are not a solution for users, you can have a user wait 30s for an action to be validated, see how fast he'll flee this chain. They are a solution for builders to deploy contracts/submit larger txs, not for users.
Big blocks are not a solution for users, you can have a user wait 30s for an action to be validated, see how fast he'll flee this chain. They are a solution for builders to deploy contracts/submit larger txs, not for users.
Reacting with " 🤨 " to a very serious problem the HyperEVM has, one that's of course been talked about 1000 times but still needs to be called out, is so out of touch with reality. 3M block gas limit is BAD. BAD. BAD. BAD. The chain will once again blow up at the slightest hint of activity, break user adoption once again, and it's back to zero: useless DEXs, dead projects, because they just technically can't live together on the chain without it breaking gas prices. HyperEVM has been the chain with the highest recorded gas price spikes ACROSS ALL CHAINS. It's so hard to build here, and there's nothing we as builders can do about it. The chain currently, technically, disincentivizes builders. Don't let it die. Listen to the builders: they've been shouting about this for a long time already.
Reacting with " 🤨 " to a very serious problem the HyperEVM has, one that's of course been talked about 1000 times but still needs to be called out, is so out of touch with reality. 3M block gas limit is BAD. BAD. BAD. BAD. The chain will once again blow up at the slightest hint of activity, break user adoption once again, and it's back to zero: useless DEXs, dead projects, because they just technically can't live together on the chain without it breaking gas prices. HyperEVM has been the chain with the highest recorded gas price spikes ACROSS ALL CHAINS. It's so hard to build here, and there's nothing we as builders can do about it. The chain currently, technically, disincentivizes builders. Don't let it die. Listen to the builders: they've been shouting about this for a long time already.