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there you get ultra fucked
there you get ultra fucked
but basket is a more fluid game and prob doesnt change so fast as a goal on soccer on minute 90
but basket is a more fluid game and prob doesnt change so fast as a goal on soccer on minute 90
yes, NBA works a bit better with no delay however
yes, NBA works a bit better with no delay however
and not merge possible between some books
and not merge possible between some books
over 2.5 over 3.5 over 4.5........... over 187.5....
over 2.5 over 3.5 over 4.5........... over 187.5....
not enough volume because there is 1000000000000 totals
not enough volume because there is 1000000000000 totals
susquehanna focus on moneylines
susquehanna focus on moneylines
also low in kalshi yeah, no sense
also low in kalshi yeah, no sense
let me check if I have videos
let me check if I have videos
go check yourself during live mlb match, open random RFIN book
go check yourself during live mlb match, open random RFIN book
and they keep ignoring our requests
and they keep ignoring our requests
we have 1M daily volume on good days, now much less due to wc
we have 1M daily volume on good days, now much less due to wc
we are colocated in london and thats literally useless
we are colocated in london and thats literally useless
this is just a consecuence of this, direct consecuence for sure
this is just a consecuence of this, direct consecuence for sure
esport total maps has 100x more liquidity and less spread than MLB random prop lol
esport total maps has 100x more liquidity and less spread than MLB random prop lol
MLB totals random book is 100x times thinner than MAP 1 on bilibili vs KT rolster
MLB totals random book is 100x times thinner than MAP 1 on bilibili vs KT rolster
we are in the same situation
we are in the same situation
bro, dont worry
bro, dont worry
but latency spikes can kill us rapidly and this is something that still needs HUGE improvement
but latency spikes can kill us rapidly and this is something that still needs HUGE improvement
we are one of those we also mm on kalshi and we can profit on no delay
we are one of those we also mm on kalshi and we can profit on no delay
just in exchange of higher spread and lower liquidity and then less taker fees in the long / mid term, and mms migrating to kalshi
just in exchange of higher spread and lower liquidity and then less taker fees in the long / mid term, and mms migrating to kalshi
the only benefit is maybe more taker fees and more revenue for them in the very short term while market makers underscale thir bids
the only benefit is maybe more taker fees and more revenue for them in the very short term while market makers underscale thir bids
they must be just testing, I cannot understand if they mantain this decission
they must be just testing, I cannot understand if they mantain this decission
completely agree. login in 8 times is a bigger issue for users
completely agree. login in 8 times is a bigger issue for users
so in kalshi its ok to have no delay
so in kalshi its ok to have no delay
and susquehanna is a sports market maker with fix protocol and private link connection under 1ms
and susquehanna is a sports market maker with fix protocol and private link connection under 1ms
in kalshi you can cancel an order with 5ms p99
in kalshi you can cancel an order with 5ms p99
this is not a stupid intuition, this exists, we have already done it for testing and yes, it works
this is not a stupid intuition, this exists, we have already done it for testing and yes, it works
its a non-sense tradeoff for bots (the bast majority of taker orders are bots)
its a non-sense tradeoff for bots (the bast majority of taker orders are bots)
we can market make with higher spreads, but thats awful user experience and for taker bots there is no sense paying that extra spread just in exchange of 1 second
we can market make with higher spreads, but thats awful user experience and for taker bots there is no sense paying that extra spread just in exchange of 1 second
just loose 90% of the business of mming this month, world cup
just loose 90% of the business of mming this month, world cup
so there is nothing we can do I guess
so there is nothing we can do I guess
and on the USA, some people there intelligent + they have money + good infra
and on the USA, some people there intelligent + they have money + good infra
of course it is, we ourselves tested that strategies, and this event is so huge... so many people watching it live...
of course it is, we ourselves tested that strategies, and this event is so huge... so many people watching it live...
we also market making on cricket and esports with no delay and its ultra confortable for us, algorithm just works fine. MLB totals / RFIN / spreads with no delay is again, a f**king mess
we also market making on cricket and esports with no delay and its ultra confortable for us, algorithm just works fine. MLB totals / RFIN / spreads with no delay is again, a f**king mess
I don´t know how we can appeal this decission, I guess we just can´t
I don´t know how we can appeal this decission, I guess we just can´t
but with live match this should have at least the basic 250ms delay, 0s delay is crazy for us
but with live match this should have at least the basic 250ms delay, 0s delay is crazy for us
before the match start is very useful to have no delay, is okay, high liquidity even with no delay (no adverse risk, no latency dependent no info)
before the match start is very useful to have no delay, is okay, high liquidity even with no delay (no adverse risk, no latency dependent no info)
they create value in the short term for them as taker fees revenue and destroy little by little makers
they create value in the short term for them as taker fees revenue and destroy little by little makers
yes, we are big market makers and we are sad we cannot provide liquidity safely in world cup
yes, we are big market makers and we are sad we cannot provide liquidity safely in world cup
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Just wanted to know your oppinion on this guys
Just wanted to know your oppinion on this guys
we market make on corners and wc props and since this change we have seen a huge decrease in this props liquidity and a sustancial increase in the bid/ask spread (only during the live event) since this change
we market make on corners and wc props and since this change we have seen a huge decrease in this props liquidity and a sustancial increase in the bid/ask spread (only during the live event) since this change
and I guess this is not good for taker bots, as no delay is good itself but if they have less liquidity they are going to match lower quantities and less competitive prices
and I guess this is not good for taker bots, as no delay is good itself but if they have less liquidity they are going to match lower quantities and less competitive prices
but we ourselves have turned off in wc market making (1M shares daily maker volume we sell)
but we ourselves have turned off in wc market making (1M shares daily maker volume we sell)
its not an attack is just a healthy discussion on this, I respect all their decissions 100%
its not an attack is just a healthy discussion on this, I respect all their decissions 100%
but as danzu says, this change benefits only takers and harms market makers, so how this change would increase liquidity? we dont understand
but as danzu says, this change benefits only takers and harms market makers, so how this change would increase liquidity? we dont understand
I guess no delay incentives taker bots = more taker orders = more taker fees = more revenue for polymarket
I guess no delay incentives taker bots = more taker orders = more taker fees = more revenue for polymarket
and I wanted to know the opinnion of the rest of you guys (market makers)
and I wanted to know the opinnion of the rest of you guys (market makers)
we are suffering losses market making with no delay due to latency spikes some times
we are suffering losses market making with no delay due to latency spikes some times