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Xanthius 2026-06-20 12:28:29 Kalshi

That would make sense. The API devs figure it's pointless and buy and sell doesnt really exist, meanwhile the UI team understands you still need to display it properly on the site and saving the buy vs sell state into the back end is more efficient than calculating it every single time on the front end and so the two teams clash at integration

That would make sense. The API devs figure it's pointless and buy and sell doesnt really exist, meanwhile the UI team understands you still need to display it properly on the site and saving the buy vs sell state into the back end is more efficient than calculating it every single time on the front end and so the two teams clash at integration

Xanthius 2026-06-20 11:53:24 Kalshi

I'm not asking them to provide something new. If you place the exact same order through the website or through the API you get a different result which makes the website's dashboard worse. That's not the intended outcome clearly, and fixing that would make sense and that's separate from asking for more customization options

I'm not asking them to provide something new. If you place the exact same order through the website or through the API you get a different result which makes the website's dashboard worse. That's not the intended outcome clearly, and fixing that would make sense and that's separate from asking for more customization options

Xanthius 2026-06-20 11:46:01 Kalshi

I would like to be able to point out bugs and have them looked into and sorted in a timely manner rather than having people be so dogmatically against improving the platform. The platform having a flaw isn't something you need to take personally and we both like the platform but that doesn't mean there's no room for improvement and that people should pretend problems dont exist

I would like to be able to point out bugs and have them looked into and sorted in a timely manner rather than having people be so dogmatically against improving the platform. The platform having a flaw isn't something you need to take personally and we both like the platform but that doesn't mean there's no room for improvement and that people should pretend problems dont exist

Xanthius 2026-06-20 11:43:01 Kalshi

How is that any excuse for their design flaw?

How is that any excuse for their design flaw?

Xanthius 2026-06-20 11:41:09 Kalshi

You really think it's good design for API orders to mess with the UI and show up differently than the exact same order placed on the website?

You really think it's good design for API orders to mess with the UI and show up differently than the exact same order placed on the website?

Xanthius 2026-06-20 11:33:05 Kalshi

That shouldn't be necessary though and wasn't until they downgraded the API which is disappointing

That shouldn't be necessary though and wasn't until they downgraded the API which is disappointing

Xanthius 2026-06-20 11:25:51 Kalshi

Youre assuming my brain is plugged into the API with neuralink or something. If I go onto the website and look at my dashboard I cannot know if the order is buying or selling without also knowing my position in that market so I literally would have to click on every single individual entry and analyze their position and compare it to the order. I get that it's possible to do that but that's not reasonable to do and defeats the entire purpose of a dashboard if it no longer shows you info at a glance

Youre assuming my brain is plugged into the API with neuralink or something. If I go onto the website and look at my dashboard I cannot know if the order is buying or selling without also knowing my position in that market so I literally would have to click on every single individual entry and analyze their position and compare it to the order. I get that it's possible to do that but that's not reasonable to do and defeats the entire purpose of a dashboard if it no longer shows you info at a glance

Xanthius 2026-06-20 11:20:53 Kalshi

not at all. If I have yes shares and I place an order to sell them on the site then it shows sell of yes. If I have no shares and I sell them on the site then I see sell of no. If I use the API it always shows buying or selling yes and so now I no longer have any idea if an order I'm looking at is actually selling or buying unless all my orders were done through the website

not at all. If I have yes shares and I place an order to sell them on the site then it shows sell of yes. If I have no shares and I sell them on the site then I see sell of no. If I use the API it always shows buying or selling yes and so now I no longer have any idea if an order I'm looking at is actually selling or buying unless all my orders were done through the website

Xanthius 2026-06-20 11:18:23 Kalshi

if I see a "Sell Yes" on the site that might mean I have a yes position im selling and it might not and that entirely depends on how the order was placed

if I see a "Sell Yes" on the site that might mean I have a yes position im selling and it might not and that entirely depends on how the order was placed

Xanthius 2026-06-20 11:17:52 Kalshi

how so? We still see the no side for all the ones done through the site

how so? We still see the no side for all the ones done through the site

Xanthius 2026-06-20 11:17:12 Kalshi

There is zero good reason for API and website made operations to show differently on the UI. It jsut makes the UI unusable to view things at a glance like it's designed to be used for

There is zero good reason for API and website made operations to show differently on the UI. It jsut makes the UI unusable to view things at a glance like it's designed to be used for

Xanthius 2026-06-20 11:16:29 Kalshi

on the site every order not from the API shows one way then API ones are all messed up so you need to actually click on the order and analyze the market to see fi you have positions already or not and how it relates to that order instead of it just telling you like it does when you use the site to place roders

on the site every order not from the API shows one way then API ones are all messed up so you need to actually click on the order and analyze the market to see fi you have positions already or not and how it relates to that order instead of it just telling you like it does when you use the site to place roders

Xanthius 2026-06-20 11:15:33 Kalshi

When its all jsut garbled its useless to look at on the site and its mixed in with others that do have buy and sell no properly

When its all jsut garbled its useless to look at on the site and its mixed in with others that do have buy and sell no properly

Xanthius 2026-06-20 11:15:06 Kalshi

in the backend sure but it means different things in the front end

in the backend sure but it means different things in the front end

Xanthius 2026-06-20 11:13:34 Kalshi

I also just noticed by "Buy no" orders also show up as "sell yes" on the site so it's overall impossible to really use the website if you use the API. It all just ends up garbled

I also just noticed by "Buy no" orders also show up as "sell yes" on the site so it's overall impossible to really use the website if you use the API. It all just ends up garbled

Xanthius 2026-06-20 10:59:05 Kalshi

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to at the very minimum allow us to use the API without breaking the front end even if that means we need to be in charge of marking it as a sell or a buy and even if us marking it that way doesnt change the underlying order. The marking of it's intent is clearly important and Kalshi beleives so too otherwise it wouldn't be in their backend and an integral part of their front end. If they decided that sell vs buy is something that makes sense only for the front end then that would apply to their own website too rather than them keeping the backend for it in place but arbitrarily restricting API users instead of simply exposing it

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to at the very minimum allow us to use the API without breaking the front end even if that means we need to be in charge of marking it as a sell or a buy and even if us marking it that way doesnt change the underlying order. The marking of it's intent is clearly important and Kalshi beleives so too otherwise it wouldn't be in their backend and an integral part of their front end. If they decided that sell vs buy is something that makes sense only for the front end then that would apply to their own website too rather than them keeping the backend for it in place but arbitrarily restricting API users instead of simply exposing it

Xanthius 2026-06-20 10:53:40 Kalshi

I think it is unreasonable to expect us to track it on our own IF, like in this case, their way of forcing us to track it uorselves also breaks their own official front end

I think it is unreasonable to expect us to track it on our own IF, like in this case, their way of forcing us to track it uorselves also breaks their own official front end

Xanthius 2026-06-20 10:49:55 Kalshi

If they simply let the API set the flag then they would solve the bug where sell orders display as buy orders on the page and it would solve everyone's issue with sell order differentiation. Clearly the flag is useful enough to keep on the backend that they decided to do so but why now artificially restrict API users with it?

If they simply let the API set the flag then they would solve the bug where sell orders display as buy orders on the page and it would solve everyone's issue with sell order differentiation. Clearly the flag is useful enough to keep on the backend that they decided to do so but why now artificially restrict API users with it?

Xanthius 2026-06-20 10:47:54 Kalshi

The backend still has the sell logic and you can see it in the API if you place the order through the site

The backend still has the sell logic and you can see it in the API if you place the order through the site

Xanthius 2026-06-20 10:47:22 Kalshi

its in the backend. You can literally query it with the API or look on the site and it is different

its in the backend. You can literally query it with the API or look on the site and it is different

Xanthius 2026-06-20 10:46:07 Kalshi

Internally its still setup with buy vs sell and if you place the sell order via the website it handles it that way, the API just doesnt have all the features their backend does. Well the API did have it but V2 removed it from our access despite still being there internally

Internally its still setup with buy vs sell and if you place the sell order via the website it handles it that way, the API just doesnt have all the features their backend does. Well the API did have it but V2 removed it from our access despite still being there internally

Not having reduce only on resting orders only makes sense as a design if they want less liquidity on the markets since people now need to use IoT instead of resting orders that provide liquidity. We wouldn't even need the sell vs buy if we has a proper reduce only mode for resting orders

Not having reduce only on resting orders only makes sense as a design if they want less liquidity on the markets since people now need to use IoT instead of resting orders that provide liquidity. We wouldn't even need the sell vs buy if we has a proper reduce only mode for resting orders

doesnt really address that the website still allows explicit sells so it's clearly still there under the hood and not actually removed, they just removed our ability to use it via API despite themselves understanding it was valuable enough for them to still use it on the website

doesnt really address that the website still allows explicit sells so it's clearly still there under the hood and not actually removed, they just removed our ability to use it via API despite themselves understanding it was valuable enough for them to still use it on the website

so what happens if it goes through then, is it separate from the no position or does it close it and pay out or what?

so what happens if it goes through then, is it separate from the no position or does it close it and pay out or what?

Why do sell orders placed on the website properly get called SELL orders in the orders page but when done through the new V2 it always calls it BUY?

Why do sell orders placed on the website properly get called SELL orders in the orders page but when done through the new V2 it always calls it BUY?