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axios
he literally signed it. I agree it seemed highly unlikely when the ceremony was scheduled for friday. That doesn't make it fringe
he literally signed it. I agree it seemed highly unlikely when the ceremony was scheduled for friday. That doesn't make it fringe
overthonking, sorry bud
overthonking, sorry bud
once the signing ceremony has occured, event has concluded. Unreasonable to keep it open for a fringe case. Market was about whether trump would be the signer on US behalf not whether he'd sign some trophy copy for his officce
once the signing ceremony has occured, event has concluded. Unreasonable to keep it open for a fringe case. Market was about whether trump would be the signer on US behalf not whether he'd sign some trophy copy for his officce
yes
yes
why keep it open past the signing ceremony in case he decides to sign one himself? edge case not part of the intention of the market
why keep it open past the signing ceremony in case he decides to sign one himself? edge case not part of the intention of the market
yes, literally that's what it says
yes, literally that's what it says
once the signing ceremony happens perfectly reasonable to allow for p1.
once the signing ceremony happens perfectly reasonable to allow for p1.
overthonking this one bud
overthonking this one bud
silly reason to keep it open
silly reason to keep it open
otherwise would have to wait until july 31`
otherwise would have to wait until july 31`
to allow for an early p1
to allow for an early p1
can someone dm cheung and ask what the signed text was?
can someone dm cheung and ask what the signed text was?
yes i agree that's the argument we're having 🤝
yes i agree that's the argument we're having 🤝
and I 100% agree 3rd should not count
and I 100% agree 3rd should not count
troops is in the second
troops is in the second
MOU is literally "we agree to do some things now, we agree to do other things later if you do x, and we'll negotiate on the rest for 60 day"
MOU is literally "we agree to do some things now, we agree to do other things later if you do x, and we'll negotiate on the rest for 60 day"
Troops are a term already agreed to, it's just conditional on an agreement being signed on nuclear.
Troops are a term already agreed to, it's just conditional on an agreement being signed on nuclear.
i think it can be distilled down to "if we successfully sign a nuclear deal we will withdraw troops within 30 days"
i think it can be distilled down to "if we successfully sign a nuclear deal we will withdraw troops within 30 days"
they have the legal right to enrich
they have the legal right to enrich
look up any merger agreement, literally called "definitive agreements" which will have more conditions than you can count. They parties are still legally bound and obligated to close once conditions are met.
look up any merger agreement, literally called "definitive agreements" which will have more conditions than you can count. They parties are still legally bound and obligated to close once conditions are met.
I agree those were not conditional terms
I agree those were not conditional terms
yes your argument is that conditioinal terms are somehow not definitive which is incorrect
yes your argument is that conditioinal terms are somehow not definitive which is incorrect
No different than a simple purchase agreement. If you wire the money to escrow I'm legally obligated to sign the deed over
No different than a simple purchase agreement. If you wire the money to escrow I'm legally obligated to sign the deed over
it is definitive, "if we successfuly reach a deal on nuclear we will withdraw troops". The troops part is not part of the negotiation it's already agree to.
it is definitive, "if we successfuly reach a deal on nuclear we will withdraw troops". The troops part is not part of the negotiation it's already agree to.
tropps aren't part of the negotiation, that's already agreed to
tropps aren't part of the negotiation, that's already agreed to
I sell you my house for $1mm , conditional on you actually paying me
I sell you my house for $1mm , conditional on you actually paying me
Definitive agreement can conditional doesn't make any less definitive, they are obligating themselves to do it when conditions are met
Definitive agreement can conditional doesn't make any less definitive, they are obligating themselves to do it when conditions are met
other markets have resolved on the MOU, this is no different. all agreements have conditions
other markets have resolved on the MOU, this is no different. all agreements have conditions
have you not been paying attention?
have you not been paying attention?
definitive /= unconditional
definitive /= unconditional
the US signed that
the US signed that
withdrawal does not mean complete removal
withdrawal does not mean complete removal
**- The withdrawal of US troops from the region surrounding Iran is included as part of a treaty or deal that is formally established between the United States and Iran, either through signing or other formal means. **
**- The withdrawal of US troops from the region surrounding Iran is included as part of a treaty or deal that is formally established between the United States and Iran, either through signing or other formal means. **
literally from the rules: The United States will be considered to have agreed to withdraw troops from the region surrounding Iran if: - Donald Trump or another authorized representative of the Government of the United States publicly announces that the United States has agreed to withdraw troops from the region surrounding Iran. **- The withdrawal of US troops from the region surrounding Iran is included as part of a treaty or deal that is formally established between the United States and Iran, either through signing or other formal means. **
literally from the rules: The United States will be considered to have agreed to withdraw troops from the region surrounding Iran if: - Donald Trump or another authorized representative of the Government of the United States publicly announces that the United States has agreed to withdraw troops from the region surrounding Iran. **- The withdrawal of US troops from the region surrounding Iran is included as part of a treaty or deal that is formally established between the United States and Iran, either through signing or other formal means. **
"identified as a deliberate reduction in US military presence near Iran. " Does not mean closing every ME base
"identified as a deliberate reduction in US military presence near Iran. " Does not mean closing every ME base
"stationed or deployed" from rules
"stationed or deployed" from rules
if they signed this they agreed to remove troops: Immediately upon the signing of this MOU, the United States of America will begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic of vessels will be in proportion to the numbers of pre-war traffic being restored by the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America further undertakes to remove its forces from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran within 30 days after the final deal.
if they signed this they agreed to remove troops: Immediately upon the signing of this MOU, the United States of America will begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic of vessels will be in proportion to the numbers of pre-war traffic being restored by the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America further undertakes to remove its forces from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran within 30 days after the final deal.
But if it’s in CNN….
But if it’s in CNN….
So don’t resolve after an affirmative statement from VPOTUS, got it
So don’t resolve after an affirmative statement from VPOTUS, got it
You think JD Vance just made it up?
You think JD Vance just made it up?
I think it was signed and will be signed again
I think it was signed and will be signed again
<@1272383282687905939> <@941405798096076880> think this one genuinly needs your help
<@1272383282687905939> <@941405798096076880> think this one genuinly needs your help
CNN is dogshit, not even close to s-tier
CNN is dogshit, not even close to s-tier
either way no consensus
either way no consensus
official sources > media leaks from anons
official sources > media leaks from anons
we'll need to wait for polygraph results
we'll need to wait for polygraph results
yea cheung confirmed, sorry 🤡
yea cheung confirmed, sorry 🤡
wh denial
wh denial
this is conflicting, and therefore the antithesis of consensus
this is conflicting, and therefore the antithesis of consensus