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2026-06-13 · Hyperliquid · 91 条相关讨论

Elq 2026-06-13 00:44:23

To protect users ??? How does that help ? Who ? We already have isolated margining for protection + Limiting position value depending of lev can be done in a way that protects users while allows scalping did you even read it correctly, scalpers dont do huge positions anyway they do VOLUME Sincerely, if you don't know what i'm talking about just check out asterdex for example, on the point of scalping theyre doing it right You cannot scalp sht on hyperliquid and you are trying to justify it somehow We aint housing sht

To protect users ??? How does that help ? Who ? We already have isolated margining for protection + Limiting position value depending of lev can be done in a way that protects users while allows scalping did you even read it correctly, scalpers dont do huge positions anyway they do VOLUME Sincerely, if you don't know what i'm talking about just check out asterdex for example, on the point of scalping theyre doing it right You cannot scalp sht on hyperliquid and you are trying to justify it somehow We aint housing sht

Elq 2026-06-13 00:56:09

Hopefully some high quality dex takes over cuz clearly we're getting complacent at hyperliquid Nowadays nothing but a casino supported by shallow retards that are protected structurally who really believe ppl will continue to trade on it when relationship between traders and liq providers too asymmetrical There are already dexes that do it correctly but the biggest one cannot ? sure buddy

Hopefully some high quality dex takes over cuz clearly we're getting complacent at hyperliquid Nowadays nothing but a casino supported by shallow retards that are protected structurally who really believe ppl will continue to trade on it when relationship between traders and liq providers too asymmetrical There are already dexes that do it correctly but the biggest one cannot ? sure buddy

shahmat 2026-06-13 00:58:44

why can't you scalp on hyperliquid?

why can't you scalp on hyperliquid?

Elq 2026-06-13 00:58:52

Hl does most of it better still It just frustrating to use so much dexes and cexes just dont get it why its so stubborn that specific point I get that the delisting bs must happen its democracy and decentralization its a natural process

Hl does most of it better still It just frustrating to use so much dexes and cexes just dont get it why its so stubborn that specific point I get that the delisting bs must happen its democracy and decentralization its a natural process

shuri 2026-06-13 00:59:20

can only scalp on 1001x

can only scalp on 1001x

Shisho 2026-06-13 01:00:18

it's not about either of those two things, it's about surface area for manipulation. perps are derivatives, and if the thing it derives from is weak, it causes the perp itself to become weak structurally many such cases have already happened, such as jelly jelly incident, and the proper way forward is to use a methodology for delisting, to protect capital, but above all, solvency of the platform

it's not about either of those two things, it's about surface area for manipulation. perps are derivatives, and if the thing it derives from is weak, it causes the perp itself to become weak structurally many such cases have already happened, such as jelly jelly incident, and the proper way forward is to use a methodology for delisting, to protect capital, but above all, solvency of the platform

Elq 2026-06-13 01:01:11

Just need 200x Limit position value depending on lev Scalpers dont crank risk up and create risk anyway they do volume Thats not doable ? How is that not doable ? No the reality is that hl is protecting its uncompetitive dogsht market makers with shtty clankers from humans thats all there is to it

Just need 200x Limit position value depending on lev Scalpers dont crank risk up and create risk anyway they do volume Thats not doable ? How is that not doable ? No the reality is that hl is protecting its uncompetitive dogsht market makers with shtty clankers from humans thats all there is to it

shuri 2026-06-13 01:01:55

200x on btc would have resulted in deeper fuckery on 10/10

200x on btc would have resulted in deeper fuckery on 10/10

shuri 2026-06-13 01:01:58

were you not here?

were you not here?

shuri 2026-06-13 01:02:04

50x was already bad enough

50x was already bad enough

shuri 2026-06-13 01:02:54

Reality is most people are not qualified to talk about managing the risk of a protocol They are just here to degen trade, not worry about black swan events

Reality is most people are not qualified to talk about managing the risk of a protocol They are just here to degen trade, not worry about black swan events

Elq 2026-06-13 01:03:35

Limit position value depending of lev ??????

Limit position value depending of lev ??????

shuri 2026-06-13 01:03:51

and implement kyc?

and implement kyc?

shuri 2026-06-13 01:03:57

just trade on a cex if that's what you want

just trade on a cex if that's what you want

Shisho 2026-06-13 01:04:29

then they just make 7 wallets

then they just make 7 wallets

shuri 2026-06-13 01:04:59

we've even seen what was potentially non-insignificant price manipulation on btc targetting hlp before no?

we've even seen what was potentially non-insignificant price manipulation on btc targetting hlp before no?

shuri 2026-06-13 01:05:06

during illiquid hours

during illiquid hours

shuri 2026-06-13 01:05:40

the markets take less capital to move than you think. 200x initial leverage is 400x maintenance leverage is a 0.25% move

the markets take less capital to move than you think. 200x initial leverage is 400x maintenance leverage is a 0.25% move

shuri 2026-06-13 01:05:59

teleporting further than 0.5% means zero equity means ADL

teleporting further than 0.5% means zero equity means ADL

shahmat 2026-06-13 01:06:48

Ultimately comes down to this I think. It's difficult to protect against all edge cases, and risk area increases on these smaller pairs

Ultimately comes down to this I think. It's difficult to protect against all edge cases, and risk area increases on these smaller pairs