<@895912129578811413> do you know what it does approximately cost to manip the 5m market on low liquidity hours for a manip?
Im really wondering what profit they must make to cancel out the risk of the manip
<@895912129578811413> do you know what it does approximately cost to manip the 5m market on low liquidity hours for a manip?
Im really wondering what profit they must make to cancel out the risk of the manip
1000-10000 I think
1000-10000 I think
thx ^^
thx ^^
Im not sure man. I have the feeling, that it also just could be that big players with well known wallets do it from time to time or per algo. It mustnt be that new fresh wallet.
Im not sure man. I have the feeling, that it also just could be that big players with well known wallets do it from time to time or per algo. It mustnt be that new fresh wallet.
But no idea
But no idea
Only?
Only?
He pumps prices then places big bids/ask so no one can change the outcome last second
He pumps prices then places big bids/ask so no one can change the outcome last second
Bruh
Bruh
The real cost is price moving while you’re manipulating. Like you pile into BTC, then BTC moves tens of bucks right after the next minute opens. Fee drag isn’t that big.
The real cost is price moving while you’re manipulating. Like you pile into BTC, then BTC moves tens of bucks right after the next minute opens. Fee drag isn’t that big.
I think it costs him around 0.02% fees on market buys
I think it costs him around 0.02% fees on market buys
How long do they even have to be exposed for
How long do they even have to be exposed for
I mean i assume you can pull it off in like less than 1s
I mean i assume you can pull it off in like less than 1s
If your smart
If your smart
He sells his port at 99c then buys 1c so he can max extract
He sells his port at 99c then buys 1c so he can max extract
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It seems like they also loose quite often... more often than I thought
It seems like they also loose quite often... more often than I thought
pnl around 20-40% most more qround 20
pnl around 20-40% most more qround 20
i don’t think manipulators are that profitable either
i don’t think manipulators are that profitable either
Most probably lose actually
Most probably lose actually
It’s just a lot of money gets lost to fees
It’s just a lot of money gets lost to fees
Alright
Alright
Nemo the true og manip
Nemo the true og manip
Didn’t know you were very smart
Didn’t know you were very smart
like your a bug talking to me
like your a bug talking to me
High volume > less fees
Thats why it doesn't cost him much
High volume > less fees
Thats why it doesn't cost him much
i should squash you and eat you
i should squash you and eat you
1 million market buy costs him only 200$ fees
1 million market buy costs him only 200$ fees
betting against manops
is profitable
betting against manops
is profitable
no it’s not
no it’s not
ohh you mean notional
ohh you mean notional
Why don't u make a bot like that
Why don't u make a bot like that
It seems more it costs, because they play against each other fromtime to time.
And sometimes btc just doesnt play to their rules
It seems more it costs, because they play against each other fromtime to time.
And sometimes btc just doesnt play to their rules
well any good fair can bet against
well any good fair can bet against
Very rarely btc doesn't
Very rarely btc doesn't
the real question is when do you bet against
the real question is when do you bet against
Sometimes they buy early in a 5m market. But than btc moves and it maybe just isnt worth to pump it to the other direction
Sometimes they buy early in a 5m market. But than btc moves and it maybe just isnt worth to pump it to the other direction
You can
You can
Its not hard
Its not hard
explain
explain
Fees are high yes, but not if you have nice volume
Fees are high yes, but not if you have nice volume
You get a tier on binance for volume which means high volume = less dees
You get a tier on binance for volume which means high volume = less dees
but manips dont have nice volume if they change wallets
but manips dont have nice volume if they change wallets