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共 223 条，显示第 1-50 条enrichment is explicitly addressed by the final deal, so no
enrichment is explicitly addressed by the final deal, so no
i agreed that you could slap me, yea
i agreed that you could slap me, yea
anyone else getting half-filled on market orders despite the shares being available?
anyone else getting half-filled on market orders despite the shares being available?
Lebanon civil war
Lebanon civil war
No wonder you're so active
No wonder you're so active
Also, retardation is the name of the game here
Also, retardation is the name of the game here
you understand you sank your own israel x iran position in order to be a pedantic ass, right?
you understand you sank your own israel x iran position in order to be a pedantic ass, right?
How many ceasefires will Israel and Hezbollah agree to in June? - 7 (current) - 10 - 15
How many ceasefires will Israel and Hezbollah agree to in June? - 7 (current) - 10 - 15
you are relentless holy
you are relentless holy
If there ever was a time for P3 though....
If there ever was a time for P3 though....
Unfortunately the MOU is made to be cancer to a platform that requires a firm resolution
Unfortunately the MOU is made to be cancer to a platform that requires a firm resolution
The Hormuz clause previously said something to the effect of: Iran and Oman will make arrangements to ease traffic through the strait of Hormuz etc etc etc. They didn't have the final sentence, which was only added on the last day to my understanding. This "make arrangements to" clause was another example of intentional ambiguity. Iranian circles discussing the leaked MOU in May also went on endlessly arguing whether arragements meant fees or no fees
The Hormuz clause previously said something to the effect of: Iran and Oman will make arrangements to ease traffic through the strait of Hormuz etc etc etc. They didn't have the final sentence, which was only added on the last day to my understanding. This "make arrangements to" clause was another example of intentional ambiguity. Iranian circles discussing the leaked MOU in May also went on endlessly arguing whether arragements meant fees or no fees
It is just this
It is just this
So arguing about the correct interpretation of an intentionally ambiguous clause is masochistic
So arguing about the correct interpretation of an intentionally ambiguous clause is masochistic
It allows both the US and Iran a favourable interpretation
It allows both the US and Iran a favourable interpretation
The clause is intentionally ambiguous. It isn't the only one, the Hormuz clause (up until the last moment) was intentionally ambiguous in the same way
The clause is intentionally ambiguous. It isn't the only one, the Hormuz clause (up until the last moment) was intentionally ambiguous in the same way
its illegible
its illegible
the skinsuit needs to drop the "folksy" talk
the skinsuit needs to drop the "folksy" talk
is Vance ESL
is Vance ESL
If Analistard has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Analistard has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Analistard has only one fan then that is me. If Analistard has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Analistard, then I am against the world.
If Analistard has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Analistard has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Analistard has only one fan then that is me. If Analistard has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Analistard, then I am against the world.
How the hell are these materially different
How the hell are these materially different
Undertakes to remove forces, 30 days after the final deal Undertakes to terminate sanctions, in an agreed-upon schedule as a part of the final deal
Undertakes to remove forces, 30 days after the final deal Undertakes to terminate sanctions, in an agreed-upon schedule as a part of the final deal
> The United States of America further** undertakes to remove its forces** from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran **within 30 days after the final deal.** > The United States of America** undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions** against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions, IAEA Board of Governors resolutions, and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, primary and secondary, **in an agreed-upon schedule as part of the final deal. **
> The United States of America further** undertakes to remove its forces** from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran **within 30 days after the final deal.** > The United States of America** undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions** against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions, IAEA Board of Governors resolutions, and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, primary and secondary, **in an agreed-upon schedule as part of the final deal. **
How is this any different to troops?
How is this any different to troops?
> 7. The United States of America undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions, IAEA Board of Governors resolutions, and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, primary and secondary, **in an agreed-upon schedule as part of the final deal.** The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the sanctions termination issue above-mentioned and expressed their intentions to** immediately address these issues in the negotiations**,** in order to achieve mutual agreement on them**.
> 7. The United States of America undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions, IAEA Board of Governors resolutions, and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, primary and secondary, **in an agreed-upon schedule as part of the final deal.** The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the sanctions termination issue above-mentioned and expressed their intentions to** immediately address these issues in the negotiations**,** in order to achieve mutual agreement on them**.
Please read it carefully
Please read it carefully
Is this non-contingent?
Is this non-contingent?
JD Vance, today: > We will not provide any funds or lift sanctions until we see the required behavior from the Iranians
JD Vance, today: > We will not provide any funds or lift sanctions until we see the required behavior from the Iranians
How about this. Is this direct & non-contingent?
How about this. Is this direct & non-contingent?
Is this direct and definitive / non-contingent?
Is this direct and definitive / non-contingent?
have i made the promise?
have i made the promise?
you can say "im probably not seeing that money"
you can say "im probably not seeing that money"
i can promise to pay you 10 million dollars tomorrow
i can promise to pay you 10 million dollars tomorrow
We cant resolve anything. What if we get hit by a meteor in 10 minutes
We cant resolve anything. What if we get hit by a meteor in 10 minutes
How about that? Its all conditional on the US not nuking Iran tomorrow
How about that? Its all conditional on the US not nuking Iran tomorrow
They could just nuke them tomorrow
They could just nuke them tomorrow
And any argument that consists of just saying "they could just break the deal" is lazy
And any argument that consists of just saying "they could just break the deal" is lazy
Any argument that treats the not making of a deal as possible is essentially an argument saying "they could just break the deal"
Any argument that treats the not making of a deal as possible is essentially an argument saying "they could just break the deal"
Is it an *if* you do X, or *after* you do X clause?
Is it an *if* you do X, or *after* you do X clause?
Troop withdrawal is not "to be negotiated" - it is "to be implemented" following another commitment
Troop withdrawal is not "to be negotiated" - it is "to be implemented" following another commitment
# Clause 3. USA **commits to achieving the final deal** in a maximum of 60 days, extendable by mutual consent. Its not part of it. It is merely a sequencing of commitments
# Clause 3. USA **commits to achieving the final deal** in a maximum of 60 days, extendable by mutual consent. Its not part of it. It is merely a sequencing of commitments
you have been making the same arguments that are directly contradicted by the text
you have been making the same arguments that are directly contradicted by the text
we are but im just replying with the text
we are but im just replying with the text
# Clause 3. USA **commits to achieving the final deal** in a maximum of 60 days, extendable by mutual consent.
# Clause 3. USA **commits to achieving the final deal** in a maximum of 60 days, extendable by mutual consent.
The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during the negotiations.
The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during the negotiations.
People seriously just copy pasting their arguments from last night
People seriously just copy pasting their arguments from last night
# Clause 4. USA undertakes to **remove its forces** from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran **within 30 days after the final deal.** thanks for playing
# Clause 4. USA undertakes to **remove its forces** from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran **within 30 days after the final deal.** thanks for playing
# Clause 3. USA **commits to achieving the final deal** in a maximum of 60 days, extendable by mutual consent. thanks for playing
# Clause 3. USA **commits to achieving the final deal** in a maximum of 60 days, extendable by mutual consent. thanks for playing
You're rehashing your arguments from yesterday but the paper is released and completely contradicts your framing
You're rehashing your arguments from yesterday but the paper is released and completely contradicts your framing
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