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2026-07-18 · Polymarket · 151 条相关讨论

skifree8484 2026-07-18 06:07:14

is TWAP going to lead into stuff like 1min markets?

is TWAP going to lead into stuff like 1min markets?

Kawa 2026-07-18 06:41:50

did TWAP lead to 5m markets for Kalshi?

did TWAP lead to 5m markets for Kalshi?

Kawa 2026-07-18 06:42:05

also

also

Kawa 2026-07-18 06:42:12

1m markets

1m markets

Kawa 2026-07-18 06:42:37

not only will the degens go there and kill 5m markets, that is PERFECT for manipulators

not only will the degens go there and kill 5m markets, that is PERFECT for manipulators

Kawa 2026-07-18 06:42:52

they can manipulate EVERY MIN they want bruh tf

they can manipulate EVERY MIN they want bruh tf

Kawa 2026-07-18 06:44:14

imagine a strike for a 1 m market, ur not even giving the market time to BREATH lord

imagine a strike for a 1 m market, ur not even giving the market time to BREATH lord

Kawa 2026-07-18 06:44:42

<@1361217824776786031> dont ever, and i mean ever, even think about 1m markets

<@1361217824776786031> dont ever, and i mean ever, even think about 1m markets

Kawa 2026-07-18 06:45:22

there is no level of twap, kyc, etc that can save a 1m market

there is no level of twap, kyc, etc that can save a 1m market

Kawa 2026-07-18 06:45:39

how are u gonna pin anything on anyone even with kyc when the market is 1m 😭

how are u gonna pin anything on anyone even with kyc when the market is 1m 😭

Kawa 2026-07-18 06:45:44

yoooo thats so horrid

yoooo thats so horrid

033033033 2026-07-18 08:11:41

TWAP on 1 min would be literal cancer

TWAP on 1 min would be literal cancer

033033033 2026-07-18 08:11:58

No TWAP on 1 min, maybe worse <:Bidensmile:1040247925420339251>

No TWAP on 1 min, maybe worse <:Bidensmile:1040247925420339251>

Kawa 2026-07-18 08:12:22

how tf would u even twap 60 seconds????

how tf would u even twap 60 seconds????

033033033 2026-07-18 08:12:47

TWAP the full 60 seconds and make it pure hell <:Bidensmile:1040247925420339251>

TWAP the full 60 seconds and make it pure hell <:Bidensmile:1040247925420339251>

Kawa 2026-07-18 08:12:50

its a bad thought

its a bad thought

Kawa 2026-07-18 08:12:57

let me urinate on it

let me urinate on it

Kawa 2026-07-18 08:12:59

cleanse it

cleanse it

skifree8484 2026-07-18 08:13:27

i never saw cleanse and urinate as the same

i never saw cleanse and urinate as the same

033033033 2026-07-18 08:13:30

I didnt even read ur message

I didnt even read ur message

033033033 2026-07-18 08:13:49

Wait, no 1 min market ever = no airdrop ever. Airdrop N confirmed

Wait, no 1 min market ever = no airdrop ever. Airdrop N confirmed

tehnrd 2026-07-18 10:09:40

btc-updown-5m-1784339100, is this the manipulation that the recent white paper is talking about? Low volatility, low volume. Asks price (red line) starts to move in the opposite direction a full 5 seconds before price data from Binance (green line) or coinbase (orange line) changes.

btc-updown-5m-1784339100, is this the manipulation that the recent white paper is talking about? Low volatility, low volume. Asks price (red line) starts to move in the opposite direction a full 5 seconds before price data from Binance (green line) or coinbase (orange line) changes.

tehnrd 2026-07-18 10:52:27

btc-updown-5m-1784342100 and another manip. Welp, working on a new strategy to ride this. If you can't beat em, join em! Pretty obvious when the opposite Ask price starts to jump unnaturally towards end of market. (Green flat, biannce price. Blue, chainlink. Spiking green, up ask)

btc-updown-5m-1784342100 and another manip. Welp, working on a new strategy to ride this. If you can't beat em, join em! Pretty obvious when the opposite Ask price starts to jump unnaturally towards end of market. (Green flat, biannce price. Blue, chainlink. Spiking green, up ask)

Kawa 2026-07-18 10:53:11

yeah man

yeah man

Kawa 2026-07-18 10:53:14

super obvious

super obvious

Kawa 2026-07-18 10:53:17

everyone alr does it

everyone alr does it

Kawa 2026-07-18 10:53:23

u should totally join

u should totally join

Ban 2026-07-18 10:53:50

woah kawa

woah kawa

Ban 2026-07-18 10:53:56

i can make money wwith the manips?

i can make money wwith the manips?

Ban 2026-07-18 10:54:01

<:wow:1480174271589384212>

<:wow:1480174271589384212>

Kawa 2026-07-18 10:54:39

bro

bro

Kawa 2026-07-18 10:54:45

its super secret alpha

its super secret alpha

Kawa 2026-07-18 10:54:45

shush

shush

Ban 2026-07-18 10:54:50

sure bro, let me join you on you joining them

sure bro, let me join you on you joining them

FinGeek (FoG) 2026-07-18 10:55:21

can you start a polyfund on joining the manips?

can you start a polyfund on joining the manips?

Kawa 2026-07-18 10:57:25

we should

we should

Kawa 2026-07-18 10:57:33

literally collectively pool our money

literally collectively pool our money

Kawa 2026-07-18 10:57:42

https://klipy.com/gifs/flowers-roses-62

https://klipy.com/gifs/flowers-roses-62

Kawa 2026-07-18 10:57:52

surely we wont get rugged like pbot

surely we wont get rugged like pbot

daya 2026-07-18 11:04:37

Hey guys - just a question - does Pm now use btc TWAP for resolution of the 5 min UP DOWN markets?

Hey guys - just a question - does Pm now use btc TWAP for resolution of the 5 min UP DOWN markets?

wize 2026-07-18 11:08:56

i see why barely anyone can make money from updown anymore

i see why barely anyone can make money from updown anymore

wize 2026-07-18 11:09:00

everyone has the same ideas

everyone has the same ideas

wize 2026-07-18 11:09:04

everyone is doing the same

everyone is doing the same

Ban 2026-07-18 11:09:24

really?

really?

FinGeek (FoG) 2026-07-18 11:09:41

alright i got a fresh idea

alright i got a fresh idea

wize 2026-07-18 11:09:42

if someone discovers something new it's a matter of time before it becomes 50/50 again

if someone discovers something new it's a matter of time before it becomes 50/50 again

wize 2026-07-18 11:09:50

<:pepecry:1480174599093096560>

<:pepecry:1480174599093096560>

gura.png 2026-07-18 11:11:16

leo looking at this chat and smirking

leo looking at this chat and smirking

wize 2026-07-18 11:11:40

Is he still doing updown?

Is he still doing updown?

wize 2026-07-18 11:11:43

I doubt it

I doubt it

gura.png 2026-07-18 11:12:22

bruh https://x.com/dontoverfit/status/2072088572887187789?s=20

bruh https://x.com/dontoverfit/status/2072088572887187789?s=20

richlb 2026-07-18 11:20:06

<:Bidensmile:1040247925420339251> just washtrade

<:Bidensmile:1040247925420339251> just washtrade

wize 2026-07-18 11:20:36

need proof

need proof

richlb 2026-07-18 11:21:17

bm chart cal

bm chart cal

Ban 2026-07-18 11:21:27

oh boy

oh boy

Ban 2026-07-18 11:21:29

here it comes

here it comes

gura.png 2026-07-18 11:22:10

the chart got stuck lol

the chart got stuck lol

gmdavid120 2026-07-18 11:22:28

bro hit the max 2^256

bro hit the max 2^256

wize 2026-07-18 11:22:29

the bot cant handle rich's volume

the bot cant handle rich's volume

FloatyBoi 2026-07-18 11:23:58

one would think adding daily pnls wouldnt be that hard

one would think adding daily pnls wouldnt be that hard

FloatyBoi 2026-07-18 11:24:10

unless they recalculate everything

unless they recalculate everything

richlb 2026-07-18 11:25:19

<a:thinking:1479896605862920222> I'll be below leo soon.

<a:thinking:1479896605862920222> I'll be below leo soon.

FloatyBoi 2026-07-18 11:25:21

<@895912129578811413> do fees paid

<@895912129578811413> do fees paid

gura.png 2026-07-18 11:30:56

soon comrade rich will share his prosperity with us

soon comrade rich will share his prosperity with us

richlb 2026-07-18 11:33:41

<:pepecry:1480174599093096560>

<:pepecry:1480174599093096560>

daya 2026-07-18 11:33:41

Hey bro - so are in TWAP mode or Not for the 5 min markets???

Hey bro - so are in TWAP mode or Not for the 5 min markets???

richlb 2026-07-18 11:41:42

look like taker delay bypass is fixed

look like taker delay bypass is fixed

FloatyBoi 2026-07-18 11:42:06

You think thats why bonereaper is washed?

You think thats why bonereaper is washed?

richlb 2026-07-18 11:42:12

<a:thinking:1479896605862920222> what is the next exploit

<a:thinking:1479896605862920222> what is the next exploit

richlb 2026-07-18 11:43:10

new taker delay bypass is limited to use, i don't think it affect him

new taker delay bypass is limited to use, i don't think it affect him

wize 2026-07-18 11:43:32

there is a new taker delay bypass?

there is a new taker delay bypass?

f5 2026-07-18 11:43:46

since?

since?

Jane 2026-07-18 12:03:08

how much cost will increase for manipulators after twap

how much cost will increase for manipulators after twap

aggro 2026-07-18 12:14:09

nothing will change, they only need to do it for 30 seconds realistically, and it doesn't take that much more money to keep a price

nothing will change, they only need to do it for 30 seconds realistically, and it doesn't take that much more money to keep a price

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:21:35

yeah unles the twap is like 2 minutes long at that point might as well make this the 2 m markets

yeah unles the twap is like 2 minutes long at that point might as well make this the 2 m markets

aggro 2026-07-18 12:35:52

I'm not even confident that theyre gonna do 1min twap for 5 mins

I'm not even confident that theyre gonna do 1min twap for 5 mins

aggro 2026-07-18 12:36:00

thats like 20% of the market lol

thats like 20% of the market lol

gmdavid120 2026-07-18 12:36:09

30 sec for sure

30 sec for sure

aggro 2026-07-18 12:36:19

then manipulators dont have to change anything atm

then manipulators dont have to change anything atm

aggro 2026-07-18 12:36:25

besides dumping the price a tiny bit earlier

besides dumping the price a tiny bit earlier

aggro 2026-07-18 12:36:34

they already keep the price down for roughly 12-16s

they already keep the price down for roughly 12-16s

aggro 2026-07-18 12:36:39

without doing it intentionally

without doing it intentionally

aggro 2026-07-18 12:36:48

its just that theres no vol and btc doesnt really move at those times

its just that theres no vol and btc doesnt really move at those times

aggro 2026-07-18 12:37:08

so theyre messing up and making everyone re-code their real mms to not solve anything

so theyre messing up and making everyone re-code their real mms to not solve anything

aggro 2026-07-18 12:37:10

lfg poly team

lfg poly team

aggro 2026-07-18 12:37:11

thanks guys

thanks guys

aggro 2026-07-18 12:37:40

honestly thats lowkey a good idea

honestly thats lowkey a good idea

aggro 2026-07-18 12:37:48

keep everythign normal

keep everythign normal

aggro 2026-07-18 12:37:51

then make a 1min twap only market

then make a 1min twap only market

aggro 2026-07-18 12:37:53

see what the mms like

see what the mms like

Fat Liquidity 2026-07-18 12:39:39

https://klipy.com/gifs/bruce-lee-nunchucks-6

https://klipy.com/gifs/bruce-lee-nunchucks-6

Fat Liquidity 2026-07-18 12:42:09

<@1361217824776786031> i'll accept obsidian status and 50k pUSD credit for the idea ty cheers

<@1361217824776786031> i'll accept obsidian status and 50k pUSD credit for the idea ty cheers

gypo 2026-07-18 12:52:36

Agreed

Agreed

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:54:06

why do u want twapped 15m

why do u want twapped 15m

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:54:09

just go to kalshi

just go to kalshi

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:54:15

its literally the same thing

its literally the same thing

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:54:22

why the focus on that for poly

why the focus on that for poly

Jane 2026-07-18 12:54:38

because he needs to keep manipulating 5m markets

because he needs to keep manipulating 5m markets

Jane 2026-07-18 12:54:40

easy

easy

033033033 2026-07-18 12:56:47

Because, we need 15 min revival

Because, we need 15 min revival

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:57:22

right

right

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:57:26

and twap is gonna revive it

and twap is gonna revive it

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:57:29

........

........

033033033 2026-07-18 12:57:45

It might bring in kalshi liquidity

It might bring in kalshi liquidity

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:57:47

i swear were yall born under a rock or sum

i swear were yall born under a rock or sum

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:57:51

https://klipy.com/gifs/kermit-the-frog-muppets-6

https://klipy.com/gifs/kermit-the-frog-muppets-6

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:58:00

WHY would it

WHY would it

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:58:04

what does it CHANGE

what does it CHANGE

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:58:08

it changes NOTHING

it changes NOTHING

033033033 2026-07-18 12:58:21

I understand retail will always choose the fastest resolving market naturally, but still

I understand retail will always choose the fastest resolving market naturally, but still

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:58:35

frgt that

frgt that

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:58:42

why would they come to poly 15m

why would they come to poly 15m

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:58:44

over kalshi

over kalshi

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:58:50

what do they have to gain

what do they have to gain

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:59:01

cuz clearly we alr know its not stopping manipulaiton

cuz clearly we alr know its not stopping manipulaiton

033033033 2026-07-18 12:59:01

They will do both at the same time if the rules are exactly the same

They will do both at the same time if the rules are exactly the same

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:59:13

so why arent they doing it rn

so why arent they doing it rn

yardz 2026-07-18 12:59:16

thatll bring em

thatll bring em

033033033 2026-07-18 12:59:21

Resolution is different

Resolution is different

yardz 2026-07-18 12:59:22

🧠

🧠

033033033 2026-07-18 12:59:45

Make resolution the same

Make resolution the same

yardz 2026-07-18 12:59:46

or random markets

or random markets

yardz 2026-07-18 12:59:52

it can be anywhere between 10-15m

it can be anywhere between 10-15m

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:59:53

???

???

Kawa 2026-07-18 12:59:59

ITS TWO DIFFERENT ORACLES

ITS TWO DIFFERENT ORACLES

Kawa 2026-07-18 13:00:06

THE RESOLUTIONS WONT EVER BE THE SAME

THE RESOLUTIONS WONT EVER BE THE SAME

yardz 2026-07-18 13:00:06

no one knows when it resolves

no one knows when it resolves

Jane 2026-07-18 13:00:12

let's just do btc block hash

let's just do btc block hash

Kawa 2026-07-18 13:00:18

yo deadahh

yo deadahh

Kawa 2026-07-18 13:00:24

why am i gettin heated

why am i gettin heated

033033033 2026-07-18 13:01:02

Idk dude, I dont really care. Im not making much from 15 mins

Idk dude, I dont really care. Im not making much from 15 mins

richlb 2026-07-18 13:40:45

If Polymarket aligns 15m rules with Kalshi, Kalshi will get hit by Polymarket manipulation too. Then people will stop asking for TWAP.

If Polymarket aligns 15m rules with Kalshi, Kalshi will get hit by Polymarket manipulation too. Then people will stop asking for TWAP.

koo_throw | gravia.trade 2026-07-18 19:50:39

if you trade manually, you can make money by siding with the manipulator lol

if you trade manually, you can make money by siding with the manipulator lol

I Am Batman 2026-07-18 19:50:45

what if???? <@744559907944005634>

what if???? <@744559907944005634>

gzgz 2026-07-18 19:51:22

Buy the cheap side 1mn before closure

Buy the cheap side 1mn before closure

GOD 2026-07-18 19:51:23

what if not

what if not

gzgz 2026-07-18 19:51:26

Ez money

Ez money

I Am Batman 2026-07-18 19:51:32

what if you are gay <@744559907944005634>

what if you are gay <@744559907944005634>

koo_throw | gravia.trade 2026-07-18 19:51:33

0xd0364c0e1d6755b16123b60eea456f81e1ebe089 - new manip in town

0xd0364c0e1d6755b16123b60eea456f81e1ebe089 - new manip in town

I Am Batman 2026-07-18 19:51:40

what if???? <@744559907944005634>

what if???? <@744559907944005634>

Ban 2026-07-18 19:51:46

copying right now

copying right now

koo_throw | gravia.trade 2026-07-18 19:56:47

let's see if my theory works out, buy UP for current btc 5m market

let's see if my theory works out, buy UP for current btc 5m market