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7月9日伊朗-以色列打击市场澄清争议与规则变更讨论

2026-07-14 · Polymarket · 120 条相关讨论

Zenef 2026-07-14 13:36:32

<@524122609764401174> Is July 9th done for?

<@524122609764401174> Is July 9th done for?

Hakei 2026-07-14 13:42:03

<@524122609764401174> Do you think we're in a new era of Polymarket rules and spirit/burden of proof standards have changed materially as compared to 3~6 months ago?

<@524122609764401174> Do you think we're in a new era of Polymarket rules and spirit/burden of proof standards have changed materially as compared to 3~6 months ago?

residual 2026-07-14 13:47:54

the way these people have started writing clarifications has changed a lot. i dont think they are even aware of what proof is available and what is not. for july 9th they just wrote wsj, reuters, toi - no urls, no explanation. where does reuters claim there was a hit? toi is incomplete with no region mentioned. I mean this is pathetic. they don't even look at the evidence closely. just quote the rules and say it resolves Y or N.

the way these people have started writing clarifications has changed a lot. i dont think they are even aware of what proof is available and what is not. for july 9th they just wrote wsj, reuters, toi - no urls, no explanation. where does reuters claim there was a hit? toi is incomplete with no region mentioned. I mean this is pathetic. they don't even look at the evidence closely. just quote the rules and say it resolves Y or N.

Sonix 2026-07-14 13:48:59

I think the biggest change is that they now don't provide evidence so clarifying p2 is easier

I think the biggest change is that they now don't provide evidence so clarifying p2 is easier

Arman 2026-07-14 13:49:24

My post has the reuters and wsj link

My post has the reuters and wsj link

Arman 2026-07-14 13:49:33

Insane copium

Insane copium

residual 2026-07-14 13:51:03

iran saying sth shouldn't matter, iran's claims should be used for attibution. the P2 argument was crap but anyway doesn't matter now.

iran saying sth shouldn't matter, iran's claims should be used for attibution. the P2 argument was crap but anyway doesn't matter now.

Arman 2026-07-14 13:51:22

If its listed as the resolution source its matters

If its listed as the resolution source its matters

Arman 2026-07-14 13:51:37

You cant say it doesn’t count if its listed as the resolution source

You cant say it doesn’t count if its listed as the resolution source

residual 2026-07-14 13:56:01

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-says-it-hits-us-military-targets-gulf-prepares-bury-slain-leader-2026-07-09/ this article has no mention of a "hit". it just says iran launched attacks. if you are quoting from the title then you seem a mad man to me.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-says-it-hits-us-military-targets-gulf-prepares-bury-slain-leader-2026-07-09/ this article has no mention of a "hit". it just says iran launched attacks. if you are quoting from the title then you seem a mad man to me.

rex416. 2026-07-14 13:56:17

No doubt about it. It’s more reality based

No doubt about it. It’s more reality based

Hakei 2026-07-14 13:56:37

Yes - I did notice this. The Ronaldo market with no Getty link (despite this previously happening) and the strike market with no article links (alas, they did name outlets) is a definite change.

Yes - I did notice this. The Ronaldo market with no Getty link (despite this previously happening) and the strike market with no article links (alas, they did name outlets) is a definite change.

rex416. 2026-07-14 13:59:14

Iran says it hits wasn’t enough in the past

Iran says it hits wasn’t enough in the past

Arman 2026-07-14 13:59:38

Agreed it should be in the article for it to count (the clear title doesn’t count). Do you mind showing me that rule pls

Agreed it should be in the article for it to count (the clear title doesn’t count). Do you mind showing me that rule pls

FinGeek (FoG) 2026-07-14 13:59:57

Post bosa era is everything P2 yes

Post bosa era is everything P2 yes

Arman 2026-07-14 14:00:09

In the past iran wasnt a resolution source now it is

In the past iran wasnt a resolution source now it is

rex416. 2026-07-14 14:00:49

Not true

Not true

50-Pence 2026-07-14 14:00:56

https://klipy.com/gifs/beautiful-amazing-3

https://klipy.com/gifs/beautiful-amazing-3

Arman 2026-07-14 14:01:24

All previous strike markets had gulf states gov and consensus as a resolution source

All previous strike markets had gulf states gov and consensus as a resolution source

FinGeek (FoG) 2026-07-14 14:01:31

The next time Microstrategy happens I bet it’s going to be a yes

The next time Microstrategy happens I bet it’s going to be a yes

rex416. 2026-07-14 14:02:04

Yeah microstrategy is yes now

Yeah microstrategy is yes now

residual 2026-07-14 14:02:23

is that willow guy the reason bosa left?

is that willow guy the reason bosa left?

residual 2026-07-14 14:02:33

or was fired?

or was fired?

rex416. 2026-07-14 14:03:04

No one knows for sure

No one knows for sure

rex416. 2026-07-14 14:03:15

But forget bosa

But forget bosa

Arman 2026-07-14 14:03:25

The real travesty is ppl claiming wsj citing us gov source plus iran statements should resolve the market n

The real travesty is ppl claiming wsj citing us gov source plus iran statements should resolve the market n

rex416. 2026-07-14 14:03:35

We got Bozo, Barkeater and Slippery Seal

We got Bozo, Barkeater and Slippery Seal

Arman 2026-07-14 14:03:54

Iran strike israel markets resolved off toi citing a gov source only

Iran strike israel markets resolved off toi citing a gov source only

Dejavu 2026-07-14 14:04:31

Yes wins ig

Yes wins ig

Arman 2026-07-14 14:06:45

I dont think so there will be a time were they respect the rules the rules were respected here

I dont think so there will be a time were they respect the rules the rules were respected here

Arman 2026-07-14 14:07:08

Basically close and pay

Basically close and pay

Arman 2026-07-14 14:07:32

Guess who posted the reuters article mentioned in the clarification

Guess who posted the reuters article mentioned in the clarification

Arman 2026-07-14 14:07:48

<:Bidensmile:1040247925420339251>

<:Bidensmile:1040247925420339251>

rex416. 2026-07-14 14:09:07

It wasn’t you

It wasn’t you

Arman 2026-07-14 14:09:19

Check to see if anyone else did

Check to see if anyone else did

rex416. 2026-07-14 14:09:24

The Reuters article was posted by the editor at Reuters

The Reuters article was posted by the editor at Reuters

Vector 2026-07-14 14:09:32

You’re lucky the new markets team are a bunch of illiterate retards because that source was terrible and didn’t have any mentions of a strike.

You’re lucky the new markets team are a bunch of illiterate retards because that source was terrible and didn’t have any mentions of a strike.

Arman 2026-07-14 14:09:44

Crine

Crine

Vector 2026-07-14 14:09:46

But congrats ig

But congrats ig

Arman 2026-07-14 14:09:58

Shi ppl say when they dont get their 20x flip

Shi ppl say when they dont get their 20x flip

Abhi 2026-07-14 14:10:22

Wait, Arman won!?!?

Wait, Arman won!?!?

Dejavu 2026-07-14 14:11:45

You the grinch

You the grinch

Mr.Suit 2026-07-14 14:12:05

alright. how about 13th and 14th

alright. how about 13th and 14th

Mr.Suit 2026-07-14 14:12:16

did strike happen too?

did strike happen too?

Arman 2026-07-14 14:12:28

Mf 14th just started

Mf 14th just started

rex416. 2026-07-14 14:12:33

He sold most before it resolved

He sold most before it resolved

Arman 2026-07-14 14:12:35

Ill look into it tomorrow

Ill look into it tomorrow

Dejavu 2026-07-14 14:12:45

Imo for the rest of the days the price is more cheap so maybe just buy yes and price will pump (maybe)

Imo for the rest of the days the price is more cheap so maybe just buy yes and price will pump (maybe)

Arman 2026-07-14 14:12:58

I held good for my port and risk size

I held good for my port and risk size

Sonix 2026-07-14 14:13:43

Ye gotta adapt

Ye gotta adapt

KingFisher 2026-07-14 14:14:04

https://klipy.com/gifs/meme-son-im-crine

https://klipy.com/gifs/meme-son-im-crine

KingFisher 2026-07-14 14:14:31

thonker has broken even since MSTR 😭 ✌️

thonker has broken even since MSTR 😭 ✌️

Dejavu 2026-07-14 14:15:15

How could he missclick that

How could he missclick that

Arman 2026-07-14 14:16:00

Some giga chad fill me here i want y https://www.betmoar.fun/market/us-announces-end-of-iranian-blockade-by-july-24-2026-20260713152715081-211

Some giga chad fill me here i want y https://www.betmoar.fun/market/us-announces-end-of-iranian-blockade-by-july-24-2026-20260713152715081-211

residual 2026-07-14 14:41:05

yes after 3 days everything is P2

yes after 3 days everything is P2

Abhi 2026-07-14 14:42:23

People said the same for kiss too

People said the same for kiss too

Abhi 2026-07-14 14:42:30

lol

lol

Sonix 2026-07-14 14:42:52

sometimes there are weird clarifications

sometimes there are weird clarifications

Sonix 2026-07-14 14:42:59

kiss was one of them

kiss was one of them

Sonix 2026-07-14 14:43:05

just like the iraq clarification

just like the iraq clarification

Abhi 2026-07-14 14:43:15

ah iraq...

ah iraq...

Arman 2026-07-14 14:43:25

Its definitely the fact that it os 3 days after and not the fact that iran and us confirmed a hi

Its definitely the fact that it os 3 days after and not the fact that iran and us confirmed a hi

Arman 2026-07-14 14:44:55

<@886468844460339232> idk why you are laughing i proposed that and every single sharp lost to me

<@886468844460339232> idk why you are laughing i proposed that and every single sharp lost to me

ryan 2026-07-14 15:08:28

Question for discussion; would the version of Polymarket that clarified Ronaldo crying Yes also have clarified the fart market Yes

Question for discussion; would the version of Polymarket that clarified Ronaldo crying Yes also have clarified the fart market Yes

Diplopia 2026-07-14 17:36:29

Both strikes went y while I was asleep damn

Both strikes went y while I was asleep damn

Diplopia 2026-07-14 17:37:47

Sadly I had no friends around to stop me and lost on both

Sadly I had no friends around to stop me and lost on both

Diplopia 2026-07-14 17:38:04

At least we know it's easier to go p2 now

At least we know it's easier to go p2 now

Meduzinator 2026-07-14 17:38:48

how are we feeling about 13th and 14th strikes so far btw

how are we feeling about 13th and 14th strikes so far btw

Melonman 2026-07-14 17:51:20

Jul 9 and 12 resolved Y correctly on reporting - both times us officials confirming impacts

Jul 9 and 12 resolved Y correctly on reporting - both times us officials confirming impacts

Raskell 2026-07-14 18:07:12

just saw the july 9 clarification

just saw the july 9 clarification

Raskell 2026-07-14 18:07:33

hot damn

hot damn

Meduzinator 2026-07-14 18:09:57

i have no clue tbh, i mostly registered the 13th and 14th being something

i have no clue tbh, i mostly registered the 13th and 14th being something

Sir_Iahim 2026-07-14 18:12:36

at least they updated the rules, it was too fubar like that.

at least they updated the rules, it was too fubar like that.

Dejavu 2026-07-14 18:12:58

If they need to update the rules they should refund the money

If they need to update the rules they should refund the money

Dejavu 2026-07-14 18:13:16

Tbh cause playing bets and after whales decide whatever they want at UMA is not fair at all

Tbh cause playing bets and after whales decide whatever they want at UMA is not fair at all

Raskell 2026-07-14 18:14:02

what changed? 50 kg removed?

what changed? 50 kg removed?

Sir_Iahim 2026-07-14 18:15:22

I lost big time on 9th but i don't see this happening

I lost big time on 9th but i don't see this happening

Sir_Iahim 2026-07-14 18:15:37

yes, at least that what i saw

yes, at least that what i saw

Raskell 2026-07-14 18:16:17

While theoretically possible they definitely did not use ultra long range ultra-light loitering munitions

While theoretically possible they definitely did not use ultra long range ultra-light loitering munitions

Sir_Iahim 2026-07-14 18:18:06

Honestly, the rules before have been too loose, the latest ones too tough, but both done by amateurs, it's like a bunch of teens on joints that make Poly:))))

Honestly, the rules before have been too loose, the latest ones too tough, but both done by amateurs, it's like a bunch of teens on joints that make Poly:))))

pingent 2026-07-14 18:46:59

You've just scammed all N share holders

You've just scammed all N share holders

Tenebrus 2026-07-14 18:53:01

july 9th attack?

july 9th attack?

Raskell 2026-07-14 18:55:33

iran is a resolution source

iran is a resolution source

M 2026-07-14 18:57:06

May Allah bring His wrath upon strike markets and their rules

May Allah bring His wrath upon strike markets and their rules

M 2026-07-14 19:00:18

I just didn’t commit more for 12 o July even tho it was a clear yes 😞

I just didn’t commit more for 12 o July even tho it was a clear yes 😞

Meduzinator 2026-07-14 19:03:43

i was surprised waking up into immediately settled july 12th, hopefully some of these opportunities pop up later too

i was surprised waking up into immediately settled july 12th, hopefully some of these opportunities pop up later too

yum 2026-07-14 19:04:36

It feels great that you can find reports proving your position, win and not get rugged

It feels great that you can find reports proving your position, win and not get rugged

Dejavu 2026-07-14 19:05:35

I bought N made some profit i should had buy Y i was there When 11 cents tho

I bought N made some profit i should had buy Y i was there When 11 cents tho

Meduzinator 2026-07-14 19:05:58

i had Y at like 20c, generational fumble

i had Y at like 20c, generational fumble

Melonman 2026-07-14 19:07:40

https://discord.com/channels/710897173927297116/817444472009785366/1526403808031150202 this is why july 12 wasn't disputed

https://discord.com/channels/710897173927297116/817444472009785366/1526403808031150202 this is why july 12 wasn't disputed

Meduzinator 2026-07-14 19:09:16

that was also my first experience with the dumbest disputes imaginable, consensus of reporting was fulfilled but the counter argument was that they showed incorrect data and N side showed napkin math as evidence

that was also my first experience with the dumbest disputes imaginable, consensus of reporting was fulfilled but the counter argument was that they showed incorrect data and N side showed napkin math as evidence

Meduzinator 2026-07-14 19:09:51

that was also a market that got p4d to oblivion for like 4 months

that was also a market that got p4d to oblivion for like 4 months

yum 2026-07-14 19:14:46

Id rather have strong rules... 50 kg was a bit too much but in general, weak rules just make any bs argument valid... with strong rules, the issue is that people will always try to find a technicality to push their position

Id rather have strong rules... 50 kg was a bit too much but in general, weak rules just make any bs argument valid... with strong rules, the issue is that people will always try to find a technicality to push their position

Meduzinator 2026-07-14 19:15:19

i am scared that it will become like insult markets, either it's clearly Y or you have to wait until the last minute for N <:kekw:939703711628947487>

i am scared that it will become like insult markets, either it's clearly Y or you have to wait until the last minute for N <:kekw:939703711628947487>

yum 2026-07-14 19:16:15

But as long as clarifications are common sense, stronger rules is more fair IMHO

But as long as clarifications are common sense, stronger rules is more fair IMHO

Tenebrus 2026-07-14 19:44:54

spent 1-2 hours following the chat and researching but did not enter the market, but i did not see proof for yes by reuters,wsj which are quoted in the clarification. Study of war or other sources specied missles shot and if i recall correctly, there it was written 7 intercepted and one was unclear. But well, seems clarifications are now just as simple as it it gets, if credible reporting says shots on multiple days is enough for the market team

spent 1-2 hours following the chat and researching but did not enter the market, but i did not see proof for yes by reuters,wsj which are quoted in the clarification. Study of war or other sources specied missles shot and if i recall correctly, there it was written 7 intercepted and one was unclear. But well, seems clarifications are now just as simple as it it gets, if credible reporting says shots on multiple days is enough for the market team

M 2026-07-14 19:45:46

Did you research the 12 July market?

Did you research the 12 July market?

pingent 2026-07-14 19:47:16

I personally agree that an attack did happen, it's clear as day. The issue is their ruleset which clearly did not satisfy the available evidence. In practice, this raised a much bigger problem. How can you reliably take positions on polymarket when the markets team resolve sometimes based on the title, other times on the ruleset and other times on vibes? The framework of rationale is unreliable, any non deterministic markets are a pure gamble now based on the markets teams vibes.

I personally agree that an attack did happen, it's clear as day. The issue is their ruleset which clearly did not satisfy the available evidence. In practice, this raised a much bigger problem. How can you reliably take positions on polymarket when the markets team resolve sometimes based on the title, other times on the ruleset and other times on vibes? The framework of rationale is unreliable, any non deterministic markets are a pure gamble now based on the markets teams vibes.

Tenebrus 2026-07-14 19:48:35

Yes, clarifications seem to be more vibe now, which protects recreational bettors and takes away historical edge.

Yes, clarifications seem to be more vibe now, which protects recreational bettors and takes away historical edge.

M 2026-07-14 19:49:19

Always trade on the spirit of the rules not the literal wording

Always trade on the spirit of the rules not the literal wording

pingent 2026-07-14 19:49:25

There's a reason this is happening btw, as long as you continue to treat your markets like a circus, your users will view you as such.

There's a reason this is happening btw, as long as you continue to treat your markets like a circus, your users will view you as such.

pingent 2026-07-14 19:49:50

Id be looking to find a new job if I worked at polym tbh

Id be looking to find a new job if I worked at polym tbh

Raskell 2026-07-14 19:49:57

I am sorry but the market literally had Iran as a resolution source which confirmed the strikes

I am sorry but the market literally had Iran as a resolution source which confirmed the strikes

Melonman 2026-07-14 19:49:59

july 9 clarif is a pretty crazy one to complain about

july 9 clarif is a pretty crazy one to complain about

Raskell 2026-07-14 19:50:13

the rules were met albeit the wording of the clarification makes it sound a bit vibey ye

the rules were met albeit the wording of the clarification makes it sound a bit vibey ye

Melonman 2026-07-14 19:50:17

not that its worth rehashing old arguments. iranian govt said they fired missiles, us govt said they hit. its not complex

not that its worth rehashing old arguments. iranian govt said they fired missiles, us govt said they hit. its not complex

Melonman 2026-07-14 19:52:14

long and *reasonably* well specified rules are for the purposes of stopping cucking, not helping it

long and *reasonably* well specified rules are for the purposes of stopping cucking, not helping it

pingent 2026-07-14 19:52:32

I agree strikes happened, it's about whether the strikes meet the rules of 1) direct hit 2) the list of accepted munitions. Either way, the rules are really bad. This time they resolved based off the title Vs the ruleset. Next time? Who knows. It's the RNG they add through bad rulesets that is slowly killing any deterministic action.

I agree strikes happened, it's about whether the strikes meet the rules of 1) direct hit 2) the list of accepted munitions. Either way, the rules are really bad. This time they resolved based off the title Vs the ruleset. Next time? Who knows. It's the RNG they add through bad rulesets that is slowly killing any deterministic action.

stradiveri 2026-07-14 19:53:24

its pointless to argue about July 9, it couldve gone either way and other side would have felt cheated. Poly just clarified Y because of the vibes

its pointless to argue about July 9, it couldve gone either way and other side would have felt cheated. Poly just clarified Y because of the vibes

Raskell 2026-07-14 19:53:25

WSJ quote us officials that confirmed the strikes, the article was clearly about the 9th (look at lolakis UMA post). Bahrain never denied strikes hit. Iran confirmed the strikes.

WSJ quote us officials that confirmed the strikes, the article was clearly about the 9th (look at lolakis UMA post). Bahrain never denied strikes hit. Iran confirmed the strikes.

M 2026-07-14 19:53:29

Some of the apes on here think in order to resolve as a yes, we need a video of the strike happening in real time + the weight of the object before firing + the confirmation of both governments of the strike+ civilian casualties if possible

Some of the apes on here think in order to resolve as a yes, we need a video of the strike happening in real time + the weight of the object before firing + the confirmation of both governments of the strike+ civilian casualties if possible

Raskell 2026-07-14 19:53:45

The 50 kg rule was dumb ye, but we can be 99.9% sure they didnt use shaheed 107 here

The 50 kg rule was dumb ye, but we can be 99.9% sure they didnt use shaheed 107 here

pingent 2026-07-14 19:54:14

This is the kind of vibe statement their ruleset should not involve.

This is the kind of vibe statement their ruleset should not involve.

yum 2026-07-14 19:55:35

both sides had arguments to win July 9th. There were sources claiming all intercepted, other valid sources claiming hit. You chose a side and lost. If you chose to disregard credible evidence and reports as a viable risk is not the market's fault

both sides had arguments to win July 9th. There were sources claiming all intercepted, other valid sources claiming hit. You chose a side and lost. If you chose to disregard credible evidence and reports as a viable risk is not the market's fault

Raskell 2026-07-14 19:56:09

Which source said Bahrain intercepted all though=

Which source said Bahrain intercepted all though=

yum 2026-07-14 19:56:48

Bahrain sources said it a couple of times... I believe it wasn't until the WSJ article that a strong case for YES came out

Bahrain sources said it a couple of times... I believe it wasn't until the WSJ article that a strong case for YES came out

Raskell 2026-07-14 19:57:07

Afaik Bahrain said it intercepted a lot, not all

Afaik Bahrain said it intercepted a lot, not all

Raskell 2026-07-14 19:57:13

Kuwait said it intercepted all

Kuwait said it intercepted all

pingent 2026-07-14 19:57:23

I didn't lose anything notable on July 9th, what was valuable is seeing how the new markets team will clarify markets and it looks like Title> ruleset.

I didn't lose anything notable on July 9th, what was valuable is seeing how the new markets team will clarify markets and it looks like Title> ruleset.

pingent 2026-07-14 19:57:31

Rules are just a vibe now

Rules are just a vibe now